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Reconciliation Week - will reconciliation in Australia ever happen?

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cont'd ...

The following link should be read by everyone:

http://www.ulurustatement.org/the-statement
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 30 May 2021 1:47:35 PM
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Racism institutionalised.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 30 May 2021 1:53:59 PM
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Foxy,

I've read it. Its rubbish but I can see why you want to rely on it.

Nowhere does it say or even suggest that "[t]he Constitution already treats our Indigenous Australians differently in so far as it allows laws to be passed for and about Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, cultures and heritage. because they are Indigenous" which was your original erroneous assertion.

There are parts of the constitution that allows the government to make policy based on race. But nowhere does it say that power is solely for Aboriginals or solely about aboriginals. Nowhere. Despite what you asserted.

You say the link you provided shows when " the discriminatory provisions in the Constitution been used.". But it doesn't. Did you read it? It references the NTER but doesn't show how that was detrimental to the aboriginals. It also references the Hindmarsh issue but fails to advise that that dispute was really between two competing groups of aboriginals and siding with one against t'other isn't, by definition, racist.

What it also doesn't tell the dupes its trying to convince is that removal of the race provisions in the constitution could be detrimental to aboriginals. Currently the government can provide special benefits to those claiming to be indigenous as against the rest of the population due to the provisions of the constitution. If that is removed there would almost certainly be a challenge to those discriminatory payments and they would be lost to the most desperate of the indigenous - not that that would worry the urban ABBAriginals or their cheer-squad
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 30 May 2021 2:10:40 PM
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mhaze,

I'm beginning to sound like a broken record.
If you read the link I cited earlier then you should
have read when the discriminatory provisions in the
Constitution have been used.

The protections under the Racial Discrimination Act
1975 were removed 3 times - each time it involved
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.

The Australian Constitution currently contains no
protections against racial discrimination and the
parliament is capable of suspending existing
statutory protections - which it has done 3 times
regarding our Indigenous people.

What is your problem in understanding that. I'm not
making a mistake here - you are. I am merely quoting
from the link.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 30 May 2021 3:43:43 PM
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mhaze,

I have mentioned bridging the gap as a way forward. It is possible and it's a practical way forward to see lives improved and better connection between people - particularly those who choose to help out or simply take a more optimistic stance on this issue on reconciliation.

The colonials in Australia had there time, their fun and their life good, bad or indifferent.

To continue to deny the appalling treatment of others by colonials in Australia, is simply something that cannot continue. History is not there for people to like or dislike, it is there to be learnt from. It is not there for people to erase - it belongs to all people - and this includes taking responsibility for it.

For those still affected by the horrible deeds of yesteryear, it is time for the people of today to help clean up the mess and that is not unreasonable - including the Government. One only has to look at the many government policies which left many indigenous communities displaced, disadvantaged and alone.

It is important to recognise people who are doing good things in Australia and this includes Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander people, to help end stereotyping. Anything in this area will be positive, raise awareness and encourage good working relationships between first nations people and others.

As I also stated reconciliation has to be a two way street and it means people of all backgrounds need to be willing to get on board for it to work. My point is to the critics, why not try and give reconciliation a chance....?
Posted by NathanJ, Sunday, 30 May 2021 5:38:28 PM
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Nah Bazz,

I don't need to call you a something or other, your posts clearly identify you for what you are. You are pushing the same racial rubbish of the past 100 years that led to the stolen generation. Take the "half-castes" and assimilate them into white society as menials, and given time the "full-bloods" will simply die out. All you need is lots of whites bonking aboriginals.

BTW, what percentage of Neanderthal blood do you assume you have? 100%.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 30 May 2021 6:34:43 PM
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