cont'd ...

The following link is interesting:

http://www.abc.net.au/ra/australia/pdf/national_id.pdf

Dear Foxy,

«Different groups have different senses of national
identity. It means different things to different
people. It's a very slippery slope to try and pin
it down. Trying to define it is both problematic
and self serving.»

Exactly, because these people describe their feelings,
not their identity.

One cannot argue against feelings, all you can say is "OK, I see that this is how you feel".


«It's also an abstract and ever changing concept.»

Concepts are relatively consistent, as opposed to feelings which change regularly.

That "identity" thing, be it "national identity", "racial identity", "gender identity", "sexual identify", etc. etc., is not a concept at all, but just a bunch of feelings.


«As well as a deeply personal concept and if we
do try to be prescriptive and define it we run
the risk of excluding people.»

If you tried to be prescriptive about it then it would be easily refutable as total nonsense.
But when someone tells you, "this is how I feel", you can have no argument with them - that's how they feel, nothing right, nothing wrong, it's just how it is.

So what we see on this kindergarten thread, is children fighting:
"I feel like this"
"No, I feel like that"

Shouting at each other ad-nausea where there clearly is no conflict between their statements.

The Bible says beware the log in your own eye rather than the splinter in the others.

Foxy can't see her own racism against the British peoples- she isn't unique in this.

The Indian's, the Chinese, the African's etc asked us to leave their nations we did- now they come here asking to stay here because their nations are a mess- is this our fault- how is them asking us to leave not racism but us asking them to leave is?

All cultures have a right to self determination. Despite what those that hate the British say- Foxy included.

Dear Canem Malum,

Why would you assume that I hate the British people?
That is so wrong. Our family is made up of British
people. One of my daughter-in laws is British and
she, her family and ours are very close.

Because I speak of the diversity of modern Australia
does not equate to a hatred of the British people - who
by the way also happen to be diverse as even the Royal
Family illustrates.

Shame on you!

Dear Canem Malum,

I can reassure you that I have no intention of
trying to destroy anybody or any culture.
There's enough people doing that in the world today,
and there's also enough hatred
in the world.

However, I can see that your mind is made up over
which I have no control. I shall leave you with a quote
from a former British PM:

" A new Britain where the extraordinary talent of
the British people is liberated from the forces of
conservatism that so long have held them back, to
create a model 21st century nation, based not on
privilege, class or background, but on equal worth
of all."

(Tony Blair).

If you read my previous links Tony Blair was listed as one of those that support Communism and Socialism. So strangely so do you Foxy.