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Would you change Australian identity?

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Universal Liberalism is a form of extremism- it is incompatible with Traditionalism- and those people that just want to live with their own kin on their own land in the society that they create. Liberalism is in a sense a theft culture- whats mine is mine and whats yours is mine. Liberalism is intolerant of other philosophies- despite it's claims of tolerance. Liberalism is just another intolerant ideology.
Posted by Canem Malum, Friday, 21 May 2021 7:21:29 PM
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With almost a third of the population born somewhere else, how the hell could we still have an Australian identity? No country can absorb so many of different culture, upbringing & education, & still have a homogeneous population giving a national culture.

A rest from immigration for a few years might give us a chance of absorbing the new chums, but continuing at recent rates guarantees a disconnected society.

So much talk of needing high migration to continue GDP growth is simply code for maintaining profits. GDP growth is worthless to the average citizen unless it is growth per citizen, otherwise it merely overloads facilities, & reduces quality of life for existing citizens, submerging identity on overcrowded spaces.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 21 May 2021 8:19:49 PM
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Australia has come a long way. It has become a
thriving, wealthy modern nation. Who would have
thought, when the unhappy denizens of the First
Fleet were huddled, starving and desperate on the
shores of Port Jackson, that one day Australia would
grow powerful and confident on the world stage.

Back in 1788, the ancestors of modern Australia knew
nothing of globalisation, but despite their ignorance
they had one thing in common with the average Aussie
of today: a restless pioneer energy, the pulsing
determination to make the world a better place that drove
explorers over mountains and across deserts, that
pushed soldiers into the midst of enemy fire, that
convinced young children of humble origins that if
they worked hard they could achieve great things.

What will the next 200 years bring for Australia?
More wars and exciting political struggles?
Human cloning? Laser guns? All these wonderful
possibilities and more are out there. Or it's possible
that we'll all die of radiation poisoning, or
that the rising seas will swallow us.

Whatever happens to Australia, the country, we can
be sure of one thing: Australia's history, rich and
colourful and filled with heroism and drama, will
live on into infinity.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 22 May 2021 7:51:50 AM
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Interesting that the Communists have also been involved with ethnic cleansing in their list of 100 Million ideological murders- but they act as if the other side are the only ones to engage in ethnic cleansing- serves as a good distraction I guess. The classic "LOOK and run away" strategy- we've been pretty naive to fall for this communist propaganda- but I must admit they've been well schooled. The new left is just a rear guard action to hide their past- Marcuse and others are pure evil- but this is war- "war is hell son" and "truth is the first casualty of war". Those that engage in war have to be skilled in lies- trust only yourself and your family- sometimes not even your family- not the government, the police, the courts, the teachers, the Army, etc. In a coup- The Institutions are turned- everything is done so that the insurgents can take power- and then the real game starts...

Sometimes you need to bring the fight to the enemy early...

While you're fighting these internal battles external enemies are maneuvering to attack from outside.

This is interesting...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_socialist_movement_in_the_United_Kingdom#Oswald_Mosley

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BritishLeft.png

The above diagram shows how Communism has evolved in British Society over one hundred years.

https://www.greenleft.org.au/content/tony-cliff-%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%94-life-revolution

It's also interesting that Global Capitalists (such as Google, Apple, others- especially IT Giants) in the US are identifying with the Democratic Party- Communism is also a Globalist Ideology. They seem to be positioning for a final battle against Traditionalism and National and Community Identity to wipe it from history. As Orwell said "those that control the present, control the past- those that control the past control the future" => There is no future but death.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 22 May 2021 5:34:15 PM
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It's interesting that many now say that Globalisation is inevitable in the same way that they said that Communism was inevitable some time ago.

James Burnham disputed this inevitability. He started as a Trotskyite but turned and became one of the greatest warriors for American integrity during the Cold War. We owe him a great debt- we should celebrate his birthday every year.

http://mattforney.com/managerial-revolution-james-burnham/

"The Managerial Revolution, a radical tract that deserves to be more widely read. Burnham's claim was that capitalism was dead, but that it was being replaced not by socialism, but a new economic system he called "managerialism"; rule by managers."

"Burnham’s central argument will repulse both leftists—who think that the modern world is suffering an excess of free market capitalism—and conservatives/libertarians, who think that America is one more Obamaphone away from communism. It certainly pissed off his old Marxist buddies, drunk as they were in the 1930’s on their unbelievably arrogant belief in the “historical inevitability of socialism.” Burnham’s view was that the dictatorship of the proletariat would never happen because the pincer of technological advances and increasingly complex societies meant that ruling a nation required a skill set that the proles simply did not possess:"

It's always been true- the family is sacred- when they destroy the family, the local community, the culture, the nation by insurrection by foreigners the world will become hell.

There are those that are expansionist that seek to opportunistically gain power by deceiving the people about the true source of stability- family and community
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 22 May 2021 5:50:32 PM
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Different groups have different senses of national
identity. It means different things to different
people. It's a very slippery slope to try and pin
it down. Trying to define it is both problematic
and self serving.

It's also an abstract and ever changing concept.
As well as a deeply personal concept and if we
do try to be prescriptive and define it we run
the risk of excluding people.

Were we to ask Australians in the street to tell
us what an Australian identity was we would find
contradictions. We would find fair-minded people
and tolerant ones but also exclusive and xenophobic
ones.

We are so diverse. One day we will "Advance Australia
Fair," but we're not there yet.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 22 May 2021 6:41:34 PM
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