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Individual view on covid vaccine

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The PM has been described as having made himself a political prisoner to panicky WA and Qld premiers, and in doing so, has made all of us prisoners to his re-election hopes. He is pressing the panic button button hard to stay in power.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 9 May 2021 10:20:18 AM
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The Prime Minister has sought to re-assure Australians
that any desire to life restrictions would not be taken
lightly.
"There are 3 million people now who have died from
COVID . The COVID pandemic is raging around the world.
I assure Australians that I will not be putting at risk
the way we are living which is so different to the rest
of the world today."

However, the PM also said that small steps will be taken
to ease restrictions and they will be done very, very,
carefully and must be done in partnership with the
states and territories in terms of how the
quarantine program works.

It appears to be a very responsible way that the matter is
being handled by our government.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 9 May 2021 11:34:03 AM
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Paul

Everything you say is false and distressing, so should be censored, right?

You're only begging the knowledge question.

The information is in the public domain. LOOK IT UP! Use your brain!

Your absurd idea that the knowledge problem can be solved by reposing blind docile credulity in the WHO, and everything else should be banned, is so dumb it's dangerous. Real fascist stuff!

There are real issues here that can't be solved by going in a circle, and you need to engage in rational discourse.

You don't get to decide on behalf of evryone else on the basis that you know everything, as proved by regurgitating what you got from official propganda, and try to silence dissent disproving you.

ttbn
I have given such reasons.
1. it spreads to, and injures, non-consenting persons
2. informed consent lacking
3. conditioned on threats to human rights such as freedom of movement and association
Plus all policy violates consent.

It's no use attacking me personally. The real issues remain.

So by squarking "conspiratorial", you admit that, if the allegations are factually correct, you lose the argument, yes? Yes, correct, that's what you're saying by this shallow question-begging?
Posted by Cumberland, Sunday, 9 May 2021 11:38:15 AM
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When the first ever vaccines were rolled out in the late 18th century there was a ground-swell of opposition. That first vaccine was against small pox and was developed from cows suffering cow pox. (The very word vaccine derives from the Latin word vaccinae meaning cow).

There were claims at the outset that injecting people with bits of bovine would cause them to grow horns or develop other cow-like features.

Reading people like Armchair and Cumberland demonstrates that we, as a race, haven't, in many ways, progressed much in the past coupla centuries.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 9 May 2021 11:46:43 AM
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Morrison will sell his soul to keep the job - easy, as he has no values or ideology - and at the moment most Australians want big government to protect them, and that's what he is going to swing with. He us a shocking opportunist.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 9 May 2021 1:50:16 PM
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The Prime Minister is following medical advice.
He warns that Australia is in "no hurry" to
fully reopen its international borders. However
he is flagging a gradual process starting with
"essential travel."

He has raised the prospect of allowing Australians
to travel overseas and return home without going
into hotel quarantine if they were vaccinated
against COVID-19.

However, he warned that the vaccination program was
not a "silver bullet," and the nation would need to
prepare for at least 1,000 coronavirus cases a week
if restrictions were widely lifted.

He reassured Australians that any decision to lift
restrictions would not be taken lightly. It would be
a gradual process.

Which makes it a medical decision - not a political one.
Done in the interests of the country.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 9 May 2021 6:21:08 PM
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