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Its not really flooding

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Today there are many residents living in and around dams and rivers across NSW who are fearful that those rivers will burst their banks and those dams will reach capacity and start overflowing.

But they can rest assured because our climate ‘experts’ have long ago determined that “even the rain that falls isn’t going to fill our dams and river systems”….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM_C_-2MGWU

And they occasionally reaffirm that expert knowledge….
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/08/16/unsw-academic-repeats-tired-dams-will-never-fill-climate-change-myth/

So you can rest assured that the experts have looked at this and determined that the dams and rivers won’t flood. That water in your lounge room is a figment of your ignorant imagination.

In other climate news, claims that hurricanes that reach land are becoming stronger have been debunked following a study of information over the past 120 years. While most people were reassured to hear the results, alarmists were rather upset.

Additionally data reported and compiled by the inestimable Bjorn Lomborg has shown that deaths from climate related events (floods, droughts, storms, wildfires, and extreme temps) have fallen by 96% over the past century despite population quadrupling. Lomborg also pointed out that the IPCC says “There continues to be a lack of evidence and thus low confidence regarding the sign of trend in the magnitude and/or frequency of floods on a global scale over the instrumental record”…. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0040162520304157

The overall lesson? Climate studies are in their infancy and what the ‘experts’ say with their normal level of certainty is to be taken with significant doses of salt.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 20 March 2021 11:59:23 AM
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mhaze,

Not sure that you can persuade those people who feel
in danger of flooding, that the experts are wrong.
I guess just as anything - better to be prepared,
and be safe, than sorry.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 20 March 2021 7:17:45 PM
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The REAL overall lesson from this is that AGW deniers are vicious liars, trying to discredit experts by taking 5 second soundbites out of context!

Look at it in context:
From http://www.abc.net.au/local/archives/landline/content/2006/s1844398.htm
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SALLY SARA: What will it mean for Australian farmers if the predictions of climate change are correct and little is done to stop it? What will that mean for a farmer?

PROFESSOR TIM FLANNERY: We're already seeing the initial impacts and they include a decline in the winter rainfall zone across southern Australia, which is clearly an impact of climate change, but also a decrease in run-off. Although we're getting say a 20 per cent decrease in rainfall in some areas of Australia, that's translating to a 60 per cent decrease in the run-off into the dams and rivers. That's because the soil is warmer because of global warming and the plants are under more stress and therefore using more moisture. So even the rain that falls isn't actually going to fill our dams and our river systems, and that's a real worry for the people in the bush. If that trend continues then I think we're going to have serious problems, particularly for irrigation.

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Do you get it yet? It's from an interview that appears to have been recorded in late 2006 and broadcast in early 2007, towards the end of a long drought. He never claimed the dams would never fill again (although you may manage to find a soundbite saying otherwise, as he did say something like IF THE [then] CURRENT PREDICTIONS ARE CORRECT THEN the dams will never fill again EXCEPT FOR IN RARE EVENTS).

It's time to start listening to the experts themselves rather than the liars who misrepresent their claims.
Posted by Aidan, Sunday, 21 March 2021 12:48:27 AM
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Hi Aidan,

Thank You for the extra information. Of course experts don't
always get everything right - but listening to people who
are experts in their various fields is all we've got to go by.
Especially when their opinions are evidence based. Still I guess
people will question what they're told. It's always been thus.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 21 March 2021 7:54:25 AM
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The self-regard and arrogance of the climate hysterics will never permit them to admit that nothing they have predicted has actually happened. They have caused energy prices to sky rocket; they have wrecked the industrial capabilities of Western countries, while China forges ahead, ignoring the lies silly Western politicians have fallen for. These liars are getting richer, while the masses get poorer. In Australia, both parties are in thrall to the 'zero emissions by 2050' mantra. The judiciary declares that Extinction Rebellion has the 'right' to vandalise private property and disrupt the rights of the majority to go about their lawful business.

People who have caused such damage to society would never have the integrity or courage to admit their stupidity. Future generations, struggling with windmill and solar power in an attempt to survive will regard these people with contempt and hatred.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 21 March 2021 9:26:22 AM
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Negative people will always find problems in every
solution as history has shown.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 21 March 2021 9:38:24 AM
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