SR you are too smart to actually believe the crap you post. What is your angle?

I know most of the other warmists are too dumb to see the truth if it hit them in the face, but you know the facts, so are simply a con man.

Hasbeen,
Understanding the effects of the laws of physics does not make anyone dumb, however much you try to spin it otherwise.

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Bazz, You appear to be implying that baseload power is what we need. But that s utterly ridiculous! Demand fluctuates and supply has to match it. The capacity factor for wind in SA is 34.7%. I think the figure for fossil fuelled power is much lower, though I haven't checked it recently.

Al the costs of wind turbines are taken into account. The claim that wind turbines get free transmission lines built to wherever they are is false, and will always be false.

Germany is investing very heavily in wind turbines, so I suppose it would make sense for them to replace the smaller ones with bigger ones, and sell the old ones for further use where appropriate.

Aiden said;
The capacity factor for wind in SA is 34.7%.
So from where does the other 65.3% come ?
Not from more wind turbines in Sth Aus.
Has to be from another two wind systems some distance away.
They cost money don't they ?

Dear Hasbeen,

Still waiting for you to tell me about a single coal fired power station which has been built in this country without subsidies.

As to me being a con man you are still riding on the enthusiasm with which the denier crowd greeted the so called hiatus.

That has been blown out of the water during the intervening years and the rest of us look at these figures then look to you lot with growing pity.
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

Bazz,
Sorry, I'd thought you understood what capacity factor meant!

Capacity factor is just a ratio. 100% of capacity factor is nothing to do with our requirements; it's merely the maximum output.

Wind generated 70.4% of our requirements last month. Another 4.7% came from utility solar, and 14.8% from rooftop solar.

Bazz and Aidan,

Nothing I enjoy more than hearing a couple of guys talking about engineering stuff like you two do.

It's about as exciting as watching wet paint dry.