Is anyone else here having trouble understanding what I'm saying? Or is it just Bazz?

To Mr Opinion- Generally my view is that talk is required to reach consensus- the alternative step is war- sometimes war is necessary. But I do empathize with your view.

To Steele Redux- Well I often find a good bark is necessary in discipline of dogs. But I'll view your video evidence. Thanks for your offer of explanation as I'm easily confused.

Aiden said- "Infrared can be absorbed and reemitted by CO2 multiple times."
Answer- Yes I envisaged this argument but I felt that the point was the CO2 intensity at the band was equal to the intensity of the Sun at the Earths orbit- hence saturated. But I may have misunderstood. Maybe I need to re-read the article as to the parameters and conclusions.

Come off the raw prawn SR. Do try some straight talking just once.

Government owned power houses were not subsidised, but owned. You do realise there is a difference or don't you?

Retailers forced to take all & any hugely expensive unreliable power from wind or solar is a pretty is a pretty good subsidy from all of us.

Then there is the South Oz interconnector, there only to make it possible for them to have a high dependence on unreliables.

Now they want another projected 2 Billion [sure to be 4 billion in fact], for another interconnector. Sensible power generation doesn't need it, power users don't need it, it is simply wanted to keep their lights on with reliance on crazy unreliable wind & solar.

Next is Snowy 2.0. Absolutely crazy idea, with no chance of paying for even it's running costs, after we have been slugged another projected 2 Billion, [sure to be 4 billion at least], again for infrastructure that is only required to make wind & solar even remotely capable of supplying our needs. We don't need it, coal & gas power don't need it, it's sole purpose is to try the impossible & prop up unreliable wind.

So there's about 8 billion in real life needed to prop up [subsidise], wind & solar

Obviously I have miss judged you, you are as stupid as your posts would suggest.

Bazz,
Something that might help you comprehend things:
In some cases it would be possible to install a higher capacity generator on the wind turbine. This would boost nameplate capacity but reduce capacity factor. It wouldn't make the turbine any less useful, but it wouldn't be much more useful either.

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Come of the raw prawn, Hasbeen!
Despite how much you want to equate renewables with unreliables, they're not. 'Tis the coal fired power stations that have proven to be unreliable.

SA has two links to the Victorian grid: the Heywood Interconnect is the main link; it's been there since the early '90s, long before there were any renewables connected to SA's grid, or even any plans for them. The real reason it was built was, of course, to trade electricity. Back then, VIC's was cheaper than SA's most of the time.

There's also the DC Murraylink connector to NW Victoria. The main reason for that was to address the supply shortages SA had around the turn of the millennium. Three other things were done to address these shortages: changing market rules, more gas turbines, and more renewables. The latter has been most effective.

There are still huge fluctuations in power prices, and a direct connection to NSW will alleviate that in both states, and is something that should have been done twenty years ago. Snowy 2.0 is another measure that will address this. It's a very sensible idea, though whether it's cost effective is another matter.

Stop press, like everything to do with unreliable power generation Aidan, the Snowy 2.0 cost is now up to $5.7 Billion, just for the scheme. All up with transmission lines & buying out Victoria it is now at a staggering $15 Billion. No wonder we can't get into our hospitals, we blew the budget on fool green rubbish.

Remember this is a project that is only required to try to make wind & solar, the unreliables into something a little more reliable.

Talk about subsidising wind power, or a special hand out to the con men who run it. Which ever you like, it is a totally unnecessary expenditure only required if we are stupid enough to try to make these crazy expensive unreliable wind & solar systems viable.

And it gets even funnier.

The poms, even with the catastrophe of the German attempt to do wind power right beside them for an example, have gone mad on wind power, or could it be wanting a pat on the head from the con men running the United Nations for being obedient fools.

Well they started shutting coal, gas & nuclear power stations. Even started using US wood chips for gods sake.

Of course their wind unreliables won't keep their lights on, so they have been buying nuclear power from France.

Now with Brexit they want their own fishing grounds back from the EU, for their own use. The French who have been ripping 600,000,000 pounds worth of fish from the Pomy grounds each year, want to stay. The poms have found the French none too careful about protecting fish stocks, so have a couple of good reasons for wanting the French gone.

Now the French are threatening to close down the supply of their nuclear generated power supply, leaving the poms really dependent on their unreliable wind power.

So do the poms give up their fishing grounds, or go cold & dark this coming winter? They don't seem to be able to get much right these days. Come on Boris, what would Churchill do? It certainly wouldn't be kowtow to the French. The poms invented steam power, & made the world a better, richer, healthier place, & now by turning their backs on it, have stuffed themselves.

Anyone who advocates renewables to replace fossil fuels is either an idiot, or really wants to push us peasants back to the dark ages.