Shadow Minster,

What you have said and continue to bandy about are wild
unsubstantiated allegations around issues that would
have long ago lost currency if it had not been for
Julia Gillard's rise to the top.

She was not fired from Slater and Gordon. She resigned.

No wrong doing on Julia Gillard's part was ever proven.
She has always strenuously denied the accusations or
that she had done anything wrong.

I won't go into the details here with you but there are
plenty of links and websites that explain what did go
on and who was involved with wrong doing. All you have to
do is Google the sites.

It was not Julia Gillard.

I do not see the point in continuing this discussion with you
as I get the impression that you are merely stirring and
are not really interested in the facts.

Foxy,

They are well documented.

Juliar was shagging a union-heavy and set up a "slush fund" for him which was used to defraud businesses of a large sum of money. That her house was renovated by union-related businesses for which she has no record of paying is also well documented.

When this came to light an enquiry at S&L resulted in Juliar being told to resign (non-optional) or in common parlance she was fired.

That there was no documentation means that there is insufficient evidence for a criminal prosecution, but the level of proof is well beyond anything you have against TA.

That she went on to blatantly lie to the voters in 2010 damaged her to the point where she was a liability to the party.

Foxy,

You and the shadyminister are just arguing the same point over and over again.

It's making you look silly and with your education you should not appear to look silly.

Doesn't matter if the shadyminister looks silly because he is just an engineer.

Mr O,

I'm not arguing.

I'm simply explaining why I'm right.

Julia Gillard was made a partner at Slater and
Gordon and when she became PM they sent her a
lovely letter of Congratulations - it's on the
web. They would not have done that had she been
fired from her job as SM claims.

Any how - I'm done here.

See you on another discussion.

Foxy,

You are being naive.

When Gillard became PM she could have done a big fat turd on the boardroom table at Slater and Gordon and they still would have sent her a very nice letter.

That's what lawyers are like.

Dearest Foxy,

" Tony Abbott represents the worst of what Australia was/is, (as many of our multi-cultural friends have expressed)."

Finally a clear demonstration of your true feelings regarding 'multiculturalism' in Australia and Aussies in general - that is white, male, public school educated, plain talking, sports loving, beer drinking, and of course only too happy to help out a mate (but not including Bob Hawke of course, always the exception to any 'rule' in the poetic licence world of 'personal perception') - the dinky-di Aussie - the dog-poo beneath Foxy's boot.
Just lovely, and many of your multi-cultural friends agree?
So much for multiculturalism, and the token assent and consent by Europeans and others who really know better (but keep it under the belt, for appearances sake at least).

Thank you Foxy,
Tony Abbott, volunteer, straight talker, just another ocker Aussie 'joke'.

I just hope you never have to face a destructive bushfire, or have to watch helpless when one of your super-duper cultural friends is caught in a rip or gets a cramp in the surf and has to rely on some good old Aussie 'drongo' to rip on out to save their oh so valuable ....

Where's the Tony and his mates when you really need them?
Off helping some UK drongo perhaps?

Tony, among other notable achievements performed at least one service to the Nation of Australia for which the majority of Real Australians (of any colour) will remain eternally grateful - he got rid of Kreepy KRudd and the go-for-the-throat 'Gillardopterix'.

Tony Abbott, the giver.
Julia Gillard, the taker.
End of story.
Just suck it up.