Foxy,

Two of the women closest to TA don't agree with you and you rely on left whinge critics that in reality know little to nothing about the man, it appears that you can't be taken seriously either.

Shadow Minister,

His family and friends will naturally defend him.
The same as Trump's family defends him.

However Mr Abbott's prejudices are well documented
as we all know.

Foxy,

There you go again. As Christine Forster was one of your prime sources to prove that TA was a women hater, I have shown conclusively that you have quoted her out of context.

That you can't find a single instance where TA has shown prejudice against women shows that most of what you claim is pure bollocks and what you claim to be well documented is either snippets taken out of context or purely fabricated.

There far more evidence that Gillard deliberately lied to voters and was knowingly involved in fraud than TA was a misogynist.

Foxy,

I really don't understand why you want to keep arguing with the shadyminister.

You are an educated woman and he is just an engineer.

It's chalk and cheese.

Think about it. Why waste your time?

You won't get anywhere. He doesn't have any training in all the Arts things like history, anthropology, sociology, archaeology, philosophy, etc. like we do.

Shadow Minister,

You were the one who brought Tony Abbott's sister into
this discussion not me in an attempt to try to score
points. I merely stuck to the man's prejudices which
are well documented and which you prefer to deny.

It's your choice of course what you choose to believe.
I prefer facts to opinions.

I shall leave you to it.

Mr O,

I blame myself for expecting more from Shadow Minister.
However I shan't be responding to him any further on
this topic. There's nothing more to say.

Tony Abbott - volunteer surf lifesaver, firefighter, charity bike-ride fundraiser, family man, politician, Christian - a man who has been giving for the majority of his adult life, for the benefit of others.

Blimey, why spend all that time in the interest of others - when they're not going to appreciate it in the long run, are going to look for chinks in your armour, find faults, deride and damn you for being a nondescript ordinary bloke.

Boisterous in youth, spruiking to fellow students a chauvinistic view of the role of women in 1970's Australia (and maybe the world) - before Merkel or Thatcher were able to re-shape world views and overturn post-WWII male attitudes.
Loser. Never amount to anything.

Each of us maintains a set of attitudes, mostly based on life experience - and much affected by early childhood learning and by exposure to generally held attitudes 'of the day'.

Part of our attitude-set is based on our 'beliefs' - beliefs inculcated from early religious instruction (or indoctrination perhaps), from parental teachings and example, and then influenced by progressive exposure to life - in school, the playground, work, social interaction and endeavours to succeed.

To grow in life means not just in physical stature but in perception and mental development, in understanding of society, culture, morality, ethics, worth and values and personal accountability for outcomes and repercussions.

To grow is to question and re-examine, to re-evaluate in the light of ever evolving circumstance - for we are not individually fully in control of circumstances and must be willing to be flexible in our reaction - or risk being left behind in thinking and potential.

No perfect human beings, all fallible, all to some extent gullible, all constrained in capacity and potential - but all capable of striving to be the best we can be, if willing to try.

Show me someone who boasts they never made an error, and you will be showing me a bald-faced liar.

Quick to judge exhibits laziness, prejudice or unwillingness to evolve - a stick in the mud, or lost cause.
Et tu Brute?