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What started the current crisis?

The death of George Floyd in Minnesota

You should look at people like Keith Ellison AG for Minnesota and prior Deputy Chairman of the Democratic Committee

http://www.crisismagazine.com/2020/antifa-and-the-muslim-brotherhood-birds-of-a-feather
"Extremist views of the Islamic variety are no bar to moving up the ladder in liberal social and political circles. Take Keith Ellison, for example. He embodies both the extremes of liberalism and the extremes of Islamism. Yet this didn’t prevent him from being elected several times to the House of Representatives, and after that to be named the Deputy Director of the Democratic National Committee.

Currently, Ellison is Attorney General for the State of Minnesota, and, as might be expected, he has had a few things to say about the riots in Minneapolis. Among other things, he has been retweeting theories that white supremacist groups may be responsible for the violence."

Look at the people where the trouble is starting:
Seattle Mayor - Jenny Durkan - Democrat
Chicago Mayor - Lori Lightfoot - Democrat

Look at Democrats efforts to stop Trump using the federal government to stop the protests:

House leaders ‘alarmed’ federal officers policing protests
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article244333347.html

Top leaders in the U.S. House said Sunday they were “alarmed” by the Trump administration’s tactics against protesters in Portland, Oregon, and other cities, including Washington, D.C., and called on federal inspectors general investigate.

“This is a matter of utmost urgency,” wrote House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler, D-New York, Homeland Security Committee Chairman Bennie G. Thompson, D-Mississippi, and Oversight and Reform Committee Chairwoman Carolyn B. Maloney, D-New York, in a letter to the inspectors general of Department of Justice and Department of Homeland Security.

There's a connection between The Muslim Brotherhood, Antifa, and the Democrats.
Obama and the 'Arab Spring'.
Soros and Ukraine.

Antifa and the current unrest in America is just another coloured revolotion done by the same people who've been doing it elsewhere.

Why is George Bush supporting Biden?
http://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/01/politics/george-w-bush-43-alumni-super-pac-joe-biden/index.html

Because Biden represents the same elite interests that the Bush's represented.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 20 July 2020 9:45:07 AM
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Why do you guys always refer to overseas, especially the USA.

As we are Australians, explain why your concerns are relevant to here rather than referring to tensions in a very different society.

Explain why multiculturalism does not work here, where are the problems and so on.

Go on, use your brain cells rather than hiding behind your hatred and other national debates.
Posted by Chris Lewis, Monday, 20 July 2020 10:16:03 AM
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AC,

Different blokes, different swamps :)

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Monday, 20 July 2020 10:58:47 AM
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Well Graham Y, I agree in principle with every you've said, but years ago when I was posted to the Redfern Police District, as a mere S/Const., Everly Street, and environs would run red with blood every other night, with black on black.

It was a veritable war zone and every initiative undertaken by our Insp. to change that unenviable fact, was met with derision and allegations of racist police - Mate I dunno, it seems the place is relatively stable now, I wouldn't know? They are the hardest demographic of all, to effectively police. Just my experience is all.
Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 20 July 2020 11:06:06 AM
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CM,

I've read some pretty stupid comments on OLO, but yours take the cake:

"Every culture deserves their own nation."

Meaning what ? Every tribe ? Every language or dialect group ? Ethnic group ? Religious group ? 'Race' ?

So how many nations should the UK break up into ? Geordies and Glaswegians should have their own nation ? Australia too ? Apartheid, here we come ?

So Africa should be even more fragmented, into a thousand nations ? India too ? They should all go to war in order to fix their 'national' boundaries forever ? So how else could they secure their boundaries ?

Should we all continue to try to live together, in societies with equal rights for all, the common rule of law for all, equal opportunities for all ? Or are you proposing that there is a sort of hierarchy of cultures in countries like ours, in which some people should have more rights than others,on some 'national' criterion ? I would certainly oppose that.

The equal rights of everybody here matter. All lives matter. And yes, Black lives matter, along with everybody else's.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Monday, 20 July 2020 11:12:34 AM
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Chris Lewis- Thank you for your comments. Most of your questions I've answered as best I can.
Please see some answers below...

Comment 1-

how strange that we are talking about what an overrated individual said many moons ago when many of the great thinkers then were still very much racists (and hypocrites).

Answer 1-

I find it offensive that you might call my ancestors evil (racist) hypocrites- and all of everyones ancestors. But if the term racist perhaps means that they looked after their families and communities then maybe they were. The term racism is a fairly recent term in terms of history- to me it doesn't really add much value to dialogue- but then again communists don't want dialogue- they want submission- classic leftist evolutionary revisionist negationist "cancelling". Everyone is a hypocrite- inconsistencies in beliefs- the paradoxes of life. I don't look to anyone for approval of my existence or my ancestors- no offence. However there is the concept of "enlightened self interest".

Comment 2-

The idea that one race, or ethnic group, is superior to another... rubbish and should be called... racism.

Answer 2-

I'd generally just call racial superiority incorrect (rubbish) myself- but you can add the term racism- if you're up for propaganda.
Sometimes propaganda can have a useful motivating effect if used in the correct way- which is determined by circumstances.

Comment 3-

You don't fight radical protests groups by also talking rubbish.

Answer 3-

I agree with you- interested at your implication that (leftist) radicals talk rubbish. In a fight you just have to fight- if you think you die.

Comment 4-

So ok Einsteins, tell us how the world would function with the world you would be promoting.

Answer 4-

The world "was" mostly separate cultures in many ways. The left would say Judea still had Assyrians and weren't a monoculture but most people would disagree. This is common in leftist revisionism at Universities and elsewhere. There are well established processes for removing people from countries used by most countries of the world- by gentle or less-gentle means.

Overall I favour Parochialism
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 20 July 2020 11:36:52 AM
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