Mr O,

That's precisely the reason we need to take up the
3 suggestions I offered earlier for improving the
quality of the debate:

1) Stop personal attacks.

2) Promote greater knowledge - scholars, policy makers,
economists, national security experts, and the media all
need to work together to disseminate China knowledge
and research. This would help improve understanding of
the issues and put news stories in context.

3) Reach across disciplines - scholars and policy makers
from different disciplines for example - economists and
national security - need to have fundamental discussions
about the assumptions and frameworks inherent in each
discipline.

I'm sounding like a broken record - but a simplistic
"pro China""Anti China" division ignores complex
questions and shuts down the conversation. It does not
help us to do that.

MR O,

Dont worry.

You have heard it all. We are simpletons.

We need to talk more.

So Mr O, what we will talk about.

1)The CCP's commitment to international law

2) The CCPs commitment to a decent social welfare system

3)The CCP's commitment to free speech

4 The CCP's commitment to minorities.

5)The CCP's commitment to the environment

6) The CCP's commitment to democracy

7) THe CCP's commitment to free and fair trade.

So Mr O, apparently some here saliavate at the supposed elites solving all of these issues.

Please, give us a break.

Chris,

You left China the predatory imperial expansionist akin to Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan off the list.

Foxy,

I understand all of that but we have left it 30 years too late and now the imperialist Chinese juggernaut is planning to make us part of its nation-state empire.

Why do you think China was so eager to send so many migrants to Australia and tie up the Australian economy to its advantage? It has been setting up all the preconditions for a takeover. As the Chinese businesswoman in Sydney said: 'Aren't the Australians dumb!" Yes lady they sure are.

Dear Chris,

You're allowing your ideology to influence your
objectivity.

As a university graduate, which I assume you are,
surely you can do better. Or at least you should
be able to do better.

Nobody is suggesting that the CCP is anything of the things
you've listed. You're the only one suggesting them.

Mr O,

The same was said about the Soviet Regime.
And look what happened to them.

Hopefully the same will eventually happen to China.
I don't think any one of us want a war.