MR O, the funny thing is thread title mentions invasion?

But apparently you should not be allowed to express your opinion that Chinese here could also be a factor.

Hilarious stuff.

And we are supposed to be defending democracy.

Foxy,

Thanks for the suggestion but I quite like this discussion topic.

So obviously you think that Chinese migrants are drawn to Australia because of their undivided loyalty to the Australian nation-state.

I totally disagree with you. I think they're here for the economic and monetary advantages they can squeeze out of the country and the only thing they will be fighting to protect is their property.

Maybe you can change their minds, telling them how we are all in this together and differences don't matter. I'm sure they will turn their backs on their ancestral homeland and sign up for the Big Kumbaya that's coming their way.

Mr O,

With all due respect all I can suggest is that you go back
and read my previous post. And do try not to put words
into my mouth.

Thank You.

The same goes for you Chris. And no - it's not hilarious.
It's your misinterpretation of what I am saying.

Foxy,

As a sociologist I look for the underlying reasons behind what people do. I look beyond the facade in a similar fashion that a historian would look beyond dates and names to understand what had happened and the reasons for it.

You don't want people to think badly of the situation the world is having with the Chinese and I am trying to work out the reason for that.

It looks to me that you have a vested interest in maintaining a pro-China stance in Australia and I'm just curious as to the reason. At this stage I'm assuming you have business interests with the Chinese that might become jeopardised if there is a growing anti-Chinese movement in Australia.

Mr O,

I have no business interests in or with China.
I am against human rights abuses and against any
totalitarian regime.

I have explained my take on China - but if you
still chose not to get it - that's your problem
not mine.

What I do believe is that it is in Australia's interests
that we continue to debate how Australia should respond
to the challenges posed by China but this is a conversation
that needs to be conducted based on facts and the merits of
the argument not on insinuation of intention.

I've listed 3 suggestions in one of my previous posts for
improving the quality of the debate.

Foxy,

I think it is useless trying to come to terms with the Chinese.

I liked the scene in 'The Darkest Hour' when Churchill (Gary Oldman) (end of the Phoney War period) leaned across the table towards Chamberlain and growled "How do you talk to a tiger when you have your head in its mouth!"

I think this is the position Australia is now in. To me the best message that Australia can send China is to return their nationals to them in order to show the extent to which we are willing to defy it. The message is that if Australia will not cower to the Chinese then maybe the rest of the world will refuse to cower as well.

Those with vested interests won't like that because it will hit their hip pocket.