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Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 5 July 2020 3:18:23 PM
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Sorry folks - the title of this discussion has
been dropped, ( I presume in error). It should have read - "CHINA - An Asian Invasion?" Or words to that effect Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 5 July 2020 6:47:18 PM
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Hi Foxy,
I'll be happy to be the first to respond with this article by Stan Grant today: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-05/china-and-us-on-collision-course-lessons-from-history/12415316 Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 5 July 2020 7:10:21 PM
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Mr O,
Thank You for Stan Grant's link. It does sound ominous. The Lowy Institute Poll was released today (Sunday 5th July) and it containes a mixed set of findings on Australia's relationship with its largest trading partner - China. They tell us that most Australians, that is - approx. 77%, see China as more of an economic partner to Australia than a military threat (15%), and that about an equal number (73%) want Australia to develop closer relations with China as it grows in influence. So there you go. A mixed bag indeed. And to make things even more complicated we're told that according to the poll - 70% of Australians say the government allows "too much" investment in Australian residential real estate with China. They resent the prices of homes being so high. Although perceptions of a military threat paid by China appear to have eased this year, yet some say that it could be likely that China will become a military threat in the next 20 years. And others saying that Australia should be firm to resist China's aggression in our region, and threats, and to stand firm. Australia's views on China appear to be very mixed. It all depend on who you speak to. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 5 July 2020 7:59:28 PM
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Foxy,
The poll figures you have cited tell me that most of the people polled are thinking with their pockets and are willing to turn a blind eye to Chinese aggression and threats as long as they can make a buck. I think we saw an example of this when Andrew Forrest was able to get his CCP mate into Greg Hunt's press conference and got him up on the podium to lecture Australia's politicians about the consequences of bad mouthing the Chinese. I would also like to see a detailed breakdown of the people polled to see if there was bias in the sample group. For example, on the day of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in December 1941 there were 420,000 people in the Hawaiian Islands of which 142,000 were Japanese (33%). What if a poll had been taken a few weeks before the attack asking if America should develop closer ties with Japan and 77% of respondents replied YES because every Japanese respondent would have thought it to be disloyal to their ancestral homeland to say NO. Do you follow what I'm getting at? Did a disproportionately number of Chinese respond to the poll vis-a-vis other ethnic groups? One can always put bias into a survey if one is looking for a particular answer to a problem. You need to be careful when reading statistics. Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 5 July 2020 8:42:46 PM
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Mr O,
Of course surveys and polls cannot be taken as gospel. But they are used regularly by researchers and the Lowy Institute is a reputable organisation. Their polls are often said to be accurately representative of the population. Anyway, it simply showed the mixed bag that is out there regarding China. And I would assume that this was a pretty accurate reading. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 5 July 2020 8:55:39 PM
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people who see China's rise as a global power a
threat to Australian white identity and our political
system.
There are new flows of people, ideas, and capital, between
China and Australia. Our cities are certainly changing.
Apartments are taking over many of our cities. People
are questioning the need to adapt to this new reality.
Anti Asian sentiment appears to be on the rise, especially
during this recent COVID-19 pandemic.
I thought it might be interesting to get people's reactions
to this and what they see (if anything) happening around
them. Should we be concerned? And is China really such a
threat to us and our way of life?
We should remember that the Chinese have been here for
generations. Why the sudden fears now?