Foxy, I don't know why you bother.
Now I'm going to embarrass you once again.
And don't try to deflect, because you know very well what the commentors are going to think of you, AGAIN!
Right, firstly, do you think I am as twisted and insecure as you that I don't know what I mean when I write these comments?
Sure I don't have a Masters Degree in English or speech writing, for that I don't apologise or care.
What I do have is, unlike you and many others, the ability to read a problem and find the most efficient way of resolving or fixing it.
I've been doing it all my life as part of my work.
Now if you will, not that you will, go back and read the posting you have critiqued and misquoted me on, and this time read it without the BIAS, and you will see that I,.........no stuff it, YOU do the work, I'm not playing your stupid games.
If you don't like me or what I write, please, move on.
Foxy, honestly, if your childish immaturity is affecting your powers of reasoning as you have just demonstrated, I think you might need to have a good look at yourself and your beliefs.
I tell you what, seeing as how you are at an emotional dis-advantage, I will quickly explain what I am attempting to say, in precise form.
Those old and sick are going to die if the virus catches up with them, there is no escape or denying it.
Those who are young and healthy, are not going to die.
So, my point is, why should the young and healthy suffer because of the shut-downs, when the virus will not affect them, but a shutdown WILL DESTROY THEM, emotionally, then physically and many others who rely on them.
Now do you get the point finally.
And if you can't see the logic or reasoning in that, then it is you who has the problem.
The other overarching fact also, was that I always presented these scenario's as questions rather than fact.

Dear ALTRAV,

Mea culpa.

It's all my fault, I realise that now.

Your insight into me - has revealed so much

You've opened up my eyes, Oh Wise One.

You're right I have led such a sheltered life.

Kept my nose in all those books. Totally out of touch
with reality. Not capable of solving problems of any
kind.

I bow to your wisdom, knowledge and expertise.

Everyone here should pay attention to what you say
and take notes.

Bravo!

Altrav,

Problems:

1. says who the young are somehow immune ?

2. and even if young people don't get obvious symptoms, what's to stop them being carriers and infecting others, including other young people, who in turn infect other people, and so on ?

As I understand it, there are: (a) people with obvious symptoms; (b) people who are a-symptomatic, they have the virus in their bodies but don't appear to be sick; and there are (c) carriers who may be (b).

If the virus isn't around, nobody gets sick; if the virus is around, i.e. in someone's body or on a surface that they touch, then they may pass it on to someone else.

So a complete lock-down may continue until nobody within a region has the virus. Then the lock-down can be eased.

Have I got that right ?

Joe

Foxy, again?
In your haste to score a point you completely go off the reservation in a moment of heightened emotion.
Your example is way off track.
You see my dear, the bombs or the Germans were not a virus.
They were a threat or nuisance, albeit to life and limb, but the difference was that the "vaccine" arrived in the ending of the war.
Now it has been forecast ad-nauseam that this virus is in people and they don't even know they carry it, yet they are infectious.
So unlike the war, which you could hide from the enemy eventually when you came out, your chances of survival were better than before.
With COVID 19, when you come out eventually, as you will, you are still at risk, nothing has changed, only unlike being faced by an enemy soldier you could be faced by a family member who is the carrier, and so you die.
Now do you finally get it?
It has been said a thousand times that even if they come up with a vaccine, there is little confidence in it's ability to perform as expected.
This virus is one of those that traditionally are difficult to ward or vaccinate against, so good luck with trying stop it.
I will say that if the numbers coming in from around the world are any indication of the death rate, lock-downs will only prolong the inevitable.
I hope you guys make a note of my prediction as I predict this is going to be the real deal, where the phrase, "going viral", came from or intended for.
A lot more people are going to die, and at this stage it does not seem to be slowing, lock-downs and all.

Il Duce me old chum! What about the "final solution", I'm on board, 85+ and its up up and away! Now we got to talk efficiency, none of this hanging around down at "Gods Waiting Room" gobbling up valuable resources, playing bingo etc. My logic tells me we can "process" 100,000 a month, one "processing plant" for each state, big ones in NSW and Victoria of course. It will take about 6 months to get up to "full capacity", and then another 6 months to "complete operations". Then we can scale down opes to "process" the necessary 3,000 to 4,000 per month on a continuing part time bases. How does that stand with you? BTW do you like strawberries, work that one out.

Loudmouth2, I don't know the answer to your question, but as I understand it, no matter how much you hide from the public right now, when you eventually have to come out for watever reason, you will be interacting with people.
They can't stay isolated from everyone forever, so when they do even a year later, the carriers are still out there contaminating everything, even though it appears that there are no more deaths.
The only way for us to be completely safe and clear of any risk of infection, is when the virus has been completely destroyed from dormant carriers as well, and that apparently is impossible and will never happen, so I understand.