Altrav,

I wish you could change your thinking on this topic. Still, when you go, how do you be want to be sent off ? Buried, or cremated ? This year ? Next year ?

Is it possible that, if the virus is not in a particular locality, nobody will get it there ? It's not simply 'everywhere', it's carried by someone. So, of course, if an area has been declared to be virus-free, and somebody from elsewhere comes in with the virus, then of course away it will go again.

I'm amazed how people can still be coming into Australia with the virus. How stupid or slack are we ?

Joe

ALTRAV, who do you remind me of, the man with the funny moustache. If we suppose you are correct, with buckets loads of pragmatism and objectivity, how should we treat those in the inevitable "doomed" category, about 500,000 Australians aged 85 and over. Having this inevitable "doomed" lot inefficiently cluttering up hospital beds, taking valuable medical resources from those who would otherwise recover, selfishly consigning some temporally sick younger people to a possibly early death. Having these old people living a few more wasted years of unnecessary consumption, waiting for the inevitable, its just not cricket! Surely there must be a more efficient way of dealing with the burdensome load of old people. After all we are only talking about half a million, 2% of the population, and maybe an ongoing problem of a few thousand a month to deal with. Do you have any suggestion for a final solution to this economically and socially inefficient human conundrum?

Loudmouth2, my pragmatic and practical part of my make-up has found that if someone/something is out to get you, you will eventually be gotten.
Like anyone else, I would prefer to die in my sleep, after that you can do whatever you like with the object resembling a human, because I am dead, I won't be there anymore, so in reality the word "I", is superfluous.
All I am saying is that anyone who isolates, or insulates themselves from others, are not stopping the transmission of the virus, nor are they stopping themselves from catching it.
There are carriers, as I understand it, and they don't even know they have it as in more cases than not, it is not obvious.
That is all I'm trying say, that maybe, just maybe, Sweden has done the right thing by getting the deaths out of the way sooner and in doing so protected the rest of the population, who are not susceptible, and more relevantly and importantly, to them, the economy

Paul, sorry but given the task to resolve or solve this conundrum, I believe I can.
But the problem is not the solution, but the reaction of the public, to the solution, just as you and others have demonstrated.
There-in lies one of the problems with democracy.
You simply can't ask the people to make decisions, because you will end up offending someone.
It's only natural, or human nature, because there are too many views and varying opinions, and they are all starting from a different base, so it's not possible to get consensus.
I think this forum serves as an example to what I am saying.
I don't want to kill off the elderly.
Don't forget what age bracket I am in, so I'm not condoning suicide, or some variant of it.
Personally, even though it'is not relevant here, is that I would gladly give up my life for my family to be spared, but we are not talking about that kind of scenario.
We are talking about this criminal called COVID 19, and it is relentless in it's attack on certain people, but no matter where you hide EVENTUALLY you WILL come into contact with it.
Without the vaccine (and even then) you do not stand a chance.
It will find those who it will kill, and spare those who it cannot harm.
So why would you like to witness your children, grandchildren, or family suffer for many years, because of the social and financial ruin of the shutdowns, even if you survived in the short term knowing you ARE going to die sooner or later by the hand of the virus?

It makes no sense to do nothing. to open up our
lockdowns, do away with the restrictions because
death is inevitable. In the meantime - let those
who want to do business - go right ahead because if they
don't they will suffer - and if they carry on as normal
they will die anyway - so if they're going to die anyway
what difference does it make if they die rich or poor?

Wow! The logic in that thinking is mind-blowing.

But hey folks, you heard the solution right here first!

BTW: On the news - Sweden opened up - and now regrets it!
But it's too late.

During the bombing of English cities during the
Second World War the government made a big effort
to move children and sick people into safe rural areas.
These people would have died eventually any way - so
why move them to safety? If that sort of thinking would
have prevailed then - think how many more lives would have
been lost.

Why have vaccines? Why have tests for diseases? Why build
hospitals? lets spend our money on getting rich and
living better? (for the time being). Death is after all
inevitable. Right?