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Defacement of History.

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Foxy,

"In international terms, the United States is an extremely
violent society, with a homicide rate far exceeding that
of any other industrialized nation."

In international terms, the Us ranks low on the homicide scale and
what has industrialization got to do with murder rates?

Russia is an industrialised nation and its murder rate is 9/100,000 whereas the US rate is 5/100,000 (2017 figures).
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5
http://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/group-eight-g8-industrialized-nations#:~:text=The%20Group%20of%20Eight%20(G8)%20refers%20to%20the%20group%20of,security%2C%20energy%2C%20and%20terrorism.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 3:52:21 PM
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Is Mise,

The US is an industrialised country and there are
large geographic variations in its crime rates.
FBI data shows big differences from state to state
and city to city.

Chicago for example has drawn widespread attention in its
soaring murder total in recent years. The FBI notes that
various factors might influence a particular area's
crime rate, including its population density and
economic conditions.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 4:29:26 PM
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Hi Issy, have ya got that monument up yet. Just squeeze good old Leo in between Vlad the Impaler, and Attila The Hun, so he can be seen by passer-byes. Don't go sticking him out the back with the Gunnie Club mascot Ivan The Terrible, that wont do. A few of the forum lads want to know if it would be okay to pop round and worship at the shrine of the Good Leo?

Hi Foxy, I've given this some thought, not in favour of lopping heads off statues of the likes of Chris Columbus, Cookie Boy or one or two others. Where a monument may be causing offence, the offended should be able to partition, say the local council, who usually deal with these things, stating the reasons for their grievance. A determination could be made from there, as to its suitability. Just as one of Australia's Neo-Nazis wanted pictures of Adolf Hitler in all school classrooms, he may also want a statue of the Fuhrer erected in Hyde Park Sydney. If he did there is an outside chance someone might take offence at the idea.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 5:04:17 PM
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Foxy,

Looks like you are only using Christianity for your own devious interests, like the occasional wedding, occasional christening, occasional funeral. Shame on you, you have not morals!
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 5:25:25 PM
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Foxy,

You said that the murder of a white women would be a rare occurrence which is why there were no riots.

I showed that whites get killed by police more than blacks. So not rare.

You then changed the subject.
The reason there were no riots is that whites don't burn an loot their own suburbs when these things happen.

Usually blacks don't either. But BLM, which is an arm of the Democrats, needs to create mayhem to stop the slide of black votes to Trump. Hence the riots.

A nice summary from the great Candice Owen..."Fact: BLM riots have destroyed more innocent black lives in the last month than the police have in the last decade".

As to Abbott, this is the sort of thing that you always fall for. Yes the number of arrives declined AFTER Rudd had implemented some of Abbott's policies before the election. But even Chris Bowen admitted that the arrivals would continue. It only stopped after Abbott took over.
I recall a Q&A episode before the election where the token Liberal was mocked for thinking that the boats could be stopped. Only dumb conservatives thought that. Smart lefties knew better. Then when the boats stopped, suddenly the ABC/media decided they always knew it was easy to stop 'em.

The more things change....
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 5:25:29 PM
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An act of protest is not an excuse to do anything you want. If some one feels strongly to vandalize anything, including a statue they don't like,my hen they should feel strongly enough to take the consquences for said vandalism. Throw the book at them so they are bold ended to act like teenagers that need a punishment whenever there's something they dislike. That way, they don't do this unless it's actually worth it, and whatever consquences be damned would be worth doing what they do.

My personal opinion, no vandalism of a stature is worth it. There might be an exception to that rule, but as of now I don't know it.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 5:39:33 PM
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