the hundreds murdered in the grey area and the obscenely ridiculous cases.
Paul1405,
I have no qualms in thinking that some deaths are due to excessive force by both Police & culprit with the end result being the culprit's death.
To call dying in custody murder just exposes your racist hatred. I have yet to see Police just pick someone to arrest & for anyone to say so is just plain stupid. The person being arrested has to draw attention to themselves in a suspicious manner before Police target them.
(90% of people arrested put on a deliberate show before cameras start recording so, by the time the Police acts, the cameras are ready & the incident is portrayed showing the Police as the aggressors.
Making yourself look like a Galah escaped from a cage & screeching like one, is a very valid reason for Police to start engaging in action !
Also, how much crap do you ask Police to cope with before their fuse blows ?

Paul,

As you would well know no one can define the limits, a 70-year-old woman faced by an 18-year-old who has invaded her home is in an entirely different category to a 30-year-old Special Forces Commando faced by the same 18-year-old.

One could expect the elderly woman to shoot to kill whereas the Commando would be expected to give the 18-year-old a lesson not to be forgotten, unless the 18-year-old was armed then shooting to kill would be justified.

It's case by case.

Just to save you going back,

"Tell us Paul, what would you do if your wife was under savage attack and was likely to be murdered?

The pregnant woman in Florida chose to defend her husband with a firearm, the Greens would deny her that option as,

"The Greens NSW believe:

7. That personal protection should never be regarded as a genuine reason for owning, possessing or USING a firearm." [my emphasis].
See:http://greens.org.au/nsw/policies/firearms

What could a person in her predicament do that would be in accord with Greens' policy and that would have saved her husband?"

Do answer, we await your reply with bated breath,

Though not on our shores, history is already being filtered on the run as it happens in New York.
Got sent a video of hundreds of shop fronts barricaded after the shops had been smashed into & looted.
The videographer remarked for four continuous minutes on the fact that none of the Media reported on that let alone showed any pictures.
Just as I saw on the news footage from yesterday's Stuttgart riots in Germany where the camera showed a vandal raise a bar to strike at a shop front & the footage stopped.
Did this kind of Media history Defacement scenario play out during the recent BLM protests in Australia too ?

Indy, sticking your nose in again, welcome as you are, get it right.
When I said; "the hundreds murdered in the grey area and the obscenely ridiculous cases." was not referring to black deaths in custody at all, rather it was a response to Issy wanting to arm the general populace for so called self defence and property protection.

Issy, the Dodge City policy of the Shooters and Hooters would see hundreds every years shot dead or wounded accidentally or wilfully in the name of self defence and/or protection of property. The old woman and the pregnant woman stuff is a smoke screen by the Shooters and Hooters to hide their real intentions of unrestricted "gun fun" they whish to pursue. The Greens oppose such a policy that would see hundreds dead so a selfish few can get their jollies. Does that answer your question.

Does that answer your question.
Paul1405,
No, as per usual you don't offer a relevant explanation. "hundreds murdered" is a deliberately overly exaggerated & insidious accusation to satisfy your selfish jollies to stir racial hatred.
If you don't know the meaning of words you should refrain from using them. People die in custody as they do in many other situations they get themselves into due to misbehaviour & to accuse the Police of 'murdering' them is nothing short of straight-out lying with the intention of causing massive disharmony ! Inciting hatred among those who feed & house them is one of the lowest acts any human can perform !

Indy, if you are referring to the word "murder" then I believe I have used it correctly, you may differ. I do believe like several of the old farts on the forum, your advancing years causes you some degree of mental fatigue, and thus tardiness of comprehension. Unfortunately until brain transplants are universally successful you will have to stay that way, that't the reality of your advancing years. It may well come to me one day, but hopefully not to the same degree as it has impaired your mental capacity.
All I can offer for you at the moment is a small incantation, hopefully it will be of some benifit.