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Defacement of History.
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Posted by Big Nana, Monday, 15 June 2020 9:21:54 AM
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Thank You so much for your comments and for your
civility in expressing them. Basically my view is as I've stated previously but perhaps did not make it quite clear - we should learn from history not air-brush or shove it away. Therefore, the statues should be retained but their whole history should be given. Good and bad. They definitely should not be defaced. Doing so is vandalism. Regardless of our politics - these statues are a part of our history as a nation. I would also like to see our Indigenous people become a part of our War Museum in Canberra. Having those who served our nation and died as a result - they too should be memorialized along with the others who are. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 15 June 2020 9:46:53 AM
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ok, I don't see what removing any statue will achieve.
But, those caught up the moment, as usual, will. The vandalism of the Howard and Abbott statues is a complete disgrace, and an example of how dumb some people can be Posted by Chris Lewis, Monday, 15 June 2020 10:01:43 AM
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In 2001 the Taliban destroyed two statues of Buddha...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/video/world/taliban-destroys-bamiyan-buddha-statues-in-2001/2015/07/29/8e0c35ca-362f-11e5-ab7b-6416d97c73c2_video.html Exact same mentality or lack thereof with the urge to destroy here. The same thing happened when the Soviets destroyed Churches and church records under Stalin - an act of historic vandalism orders of magnitude greater than the Buddha destruction. If the aim of these people is to destroy the memory of anyone who has any sort of moral question mark over them, then where does it end. Who doesn't have something in their closet that wouldn't justify 'cancelling' by the righteous mobs? Socrates and Plato were slave owners. Gone? Marcus Aurelius? The Parthenon was partially slave built. Tear it down. Coliseum? Pantheon? Vatican? Those who signed the Magna Carta were slave owners. Tear it up. And so it goes. Struth, they're even going after Gandhi now. The mentality of the historically ignorant mobs is that we are so pure and righteous and un-racist that we must erase the past which was all of those things. Its the Year Zero mentality which led inexorably to the Killing Fields. Its the mentality of 1984 - who controls the present controls the past. Understanding the past is too hard, let's just destroy it instead Posted by mhaze, Monday, 15 June 2020 10:08:59 AM
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Something positive is also happening.
According to The New Daily newspaper - there are thousands of people gathering in London to "guard" the statue of Winston Churchill as fears it will be further vandalised grow. Apparently some protesters have clashed with police and were seen to be throwing things at officers and their horses. Here at home Victorian police are on alert and are watching Captain Cook's heritage listed cottage in Melbourne's Fitzroy Gardens after the statue of Captain Cook was vandalised in Sydney's Hyde Park. It became a focus of anti-racist protests. It has since been boarded up and fenced off. In Ballarat the statues of John Howard and Tony Abbott have been wrapped and also fenced off. The police are doing their job. And should be commended for it. According to newspaper reports - statues of explorers and slave traders are being targeted as a painful reminder of the Indigenous Peoples'ancestors sufferings at the hands of the British Empire. This is the rational being given as figures from The Guardian state that between 1794 and 1928 there were at least 270 Frontier Massacres of Aboriginal People. We're told that these protests are part of the "Black Lives Matter" protests currently sweeping the globe. And there have been renewed calls to destroy or vandalize these statues. However, people are beginning to take action against these protestors - as the guarding of the statue of Winston Churchill in London shows. The actions of vandalism could have a derogatory effect. Most people are becoming disgusted with these attempts at destruction. Nobody would object to the full truth being told - but attempts to destroy - do not sit well with most rational people. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 15 June 2020 10:23:20 AM
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Dear Chris,
I don't believe in taking down ANY of these statues. I do believe in telling the WHOLE truth however. The Good and the bad. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 15 June 2020 11:11:06 AM
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Our history is what made us who we are now, and is no less important than the history of any other culture.