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Where have decent and articulate conservative voices gone?

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Australians who have impressed me at various
times are - Julian Burnside, Paul Kelly,
Greg Sheridan, Donald Horne.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 15 May 2020 5:10:34 PM
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What kind of President is Trump?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBGbPYIcnQw
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 15 May 2020 6:30:41 PM
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Professional parasites are not a ringing endorsement to malign people who want to drain that swamp !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 16 May 2020 1:31:44 PM
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Individual,

What does that even mean?
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 16 May 2020 1:57:56 PM
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I would say most conservative voices that demand truth have been hounded out of schools, unis and the media. Simple as that.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 16 May 2020 2:38:34 PM
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“the time for a new crop of conservatives to emerge and re-calibrate to an ever-fluctuating
society... People like Milton Friedman, Russel Kirk, William F. Buckley Jr - are no longer around… no one to take their place… US President - totally unfit for office. Buckley would be horrified. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 10 May 2020 3:56:58 PM

I think Foxy just doesn't like people who disagree with her- I probably support her in that at least- to a point- and that's why she is looking for "conservatives that are more like her"- but I don't think Foxy believes in conserving Australia's culture- so she isn't a conservative according to that definition- maybe she would prefer to talk to social democrats.

Buckley and Friedman weren't Conservative but Economic Libertarians and Russell Kirk was perhaps a moderate conservative. Though Buckley did have interesting discussions with Gore Vidal. Buckley- despite Foxy's enthusiastic support- was called a racist and perhaps he was- though I'm sure he didn't advocate killing six million Jews. If your aim isn't to conserve the culture you're not really a conservative. I'd argue that some of Kirk's policies (and perhaps even the Declaration of Independence) are inconsistent with conservative traditionalism. But I sort of agree with "Buckley's Law".

Ayn Rand for example are seen as the architypal Pure Economic Libertarian but perhaps she can be excused due to the time and culture in which she formed her ideas- from her writings I suspect that even she would be appalled at modern left and right globalism.

Reagan used Friedman pragmatically- Reagan's GE background perhaps swayed him towards economic libertarianism- back then GE was perhaps synonymous with American Corporate Colonialism- Conservative in a sense.

It's no surprise that communists, socialists, economic liberals agree on many issues they are all globalist ideologies. They will never agree that those at the top need a check to their power- raison d'etre.

It can be sort of like Harry Potter's Dolores Umbridge playing both sides against the middle (perhaps a Machiavellian. concept).
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 16 May 2020 3:09:59 PM
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