I heard his morning a woman living on Kangaroo Island saying that she had applied to the SA government bureaucrats to clear flammable material around her rural home. She was given permission to clear up to 20 metres around the home; she cleared 50 metres - being more knowledgeable of the bush and fires than pen-pushers in Adelaide - and has since been fined for doing it. Her house is the only one still standing in her immediate neighbourhood.

When it comes to seriously stupid, the SA Liberal party is no better than Green backed Labor when it comes to dealing with regularly occurring, inevitable bushfires.

Perhaps, with the Prime Minister saying that undergrowth reduction is as important, to him, as emissions reductions is, the Federal Government should be taking firefighting off the states as another activity that they are just no good at.

the SA Liberal party is no better than Green backed Labor
ttbn,
Were you to check on this I would not be at all surprised that the bureaucrat in question more likely than not a staunch Labor supporter. I'm not saying this lightly believe me but I'm going by my personal experiences in closely working with Govt bureaucrats & I can confidently say that 95 out of 100 are Labor orientated ! When things stuff up they can blame a conservative Govt.
I have witnessed it on quite a number of occasions.
So, slow down in blaming the SA Govt.

Indy, having a whinge to a Çentrelink' employee that your welfare payment in the form of the Aged Pension, isn't in the bank on time, can't be classed as "my personal experiences in closely working with Govt bureaucrats", Now be serious.

Indy, you said you were a migrant, that's how you dodged National Service. I bet you were a 10 pound Pom, and you haven't stopped whinging since the day you hopped off the boat!

"... the bureaucrat in question more likely than not a staunch Labor supporter..."

Very likely, individual. It is often said that you can elect different politicians, but the public service remains the same. However, I do blame the government. The government is supposed to be calling the tune and directing the public service.

Paul1405,
Do have a certificate to proof how insipid you are ?
I did not doge NS, I wasn't a citizen then therefore I was ineligible and, I have never complained about my pension being late, it's always been on time.
I did work alongside an Army of bureaucrats & they were 95% Labor & 95% incompetent in their role so, many of Australian Taxpayers never got their money's worth !
As ttbn said, you can have a Coalition Govt but the Public service remains Labor. That is a fact even you cannot deny, you're more than likely one of them judging by your excuse riddled quibbles.
Tell me, could you actually be even capable of making positive contributions here ? I mean could you possible ever come forward with a solution for any of the topics discussed here ?
For example how would YOU deal with the young who re not inclined to pull their weight yet demand we support them for nothing but nothing in return ? What would YOU like to see being done about housing for the Bushfire victims right now & how much are you willing to have deducted from your pay every week ? I think everybody who lives & earns money in Australia should pay a 0.02 % Levy !

individual,

As always, Paul is more interested in insulting other posters than he is in contributing to a topic. He is getting worst, almost at SteeleRedux's level. People like them are best ignored. Any response just encourages them.

"For example how would YOU deal with the young who re not inclined to pull their weight yet demand we support them for nothing but nothing in return ? What would YOU like to see being done about housing for the Bushfire victims right now & how much are you willing to have deducted from your pay every week ? I think everybody who lives & earns money in Australia should pay a 0.02 % Levy!"

To answers your questions Indy;

For young people I want to see opportunity, decent employment leading to worthwhile careers. Not some belittling jackass scheme where the young are victimised and seen as a tool to be exploited for the benefit of others, your National Service.

Your second question requires far more than a knee-jerk reaction. Bushfires and all natural disasters, and the multitude of questions as to how we as a society deal with the issues requires a great deal of thought. We are still coming to terms with the impact of the recent fires. Our old approach however useful, now seems inadequate to fully deal with such emergencies. I expect Australia to suffer more frequently in the future from environmental impacts. The solution is not some quick fix, like your 0.2% levy! Only with the real experts sitting down and discussing whats to be done can Australia have a reasonable change to deal with these problems.

BTW I note you say, "everybody who lives & earns money in Australia should pay a 0.02 % Levy!"
Like National Service, as a pensioner that cuts you out of paying does it not. I ask; What can YOU do to contribute to the betterment of Australia, other than having a whinge about the rest of us.

ttbn, you are a joke, you would be one of the biggest insults on the forum. You are up there with your mate who calls those he don't agree with "maggots".

Indy is a migrant, I reckon I picked it in one what kind of migrant he was. A ten pound Pom, famously known for their whinging about Australia.

Thanks racist Paul for all your help! Tell us more about all the people you don't like and how wonderful you are! I am joking, just ratchet down the insults and get a job rather than trolling here all day.

as a pensioner that cuts you out of paying does it not.

Paul1405,
As per usual you've got nothing to contribute other than your mindless quips.

You haven't even got sufficient grey matter to comprehend the definition of "everybody who lives & earns money in Australia should pay a 0.02 % Levy!".
It's obvious that you're not at all inclined to help others. The word Maggot comes to mind !

"She was given permission to clear up to 20 metres around the home; she cleared 50 metres - being more knowledgeable of the bush and fires than pen-pushers in Adelaide - and has since been fined for doing it. Her house is the only one still standing in her immediate neighbourhood."

This story more or less sums up everything's that's wrong, perfectly.

Can't seem to find the "story" anywhere? ttbn how about a link so we can read the details. Not worth taking on your say so.

JB since you are now the Forum moderator, how about you drop me an Email with your concerns about my posts.

I don't think Indy can tell the difference between 0.02% and 0.2% just a factor of 10. Well Indy is good at making up percentages, just like he claims to know how people vote.

AC,

Yes, I think it is a perfect example of the disconnect between the city and the bush, and the total lack of control by elected representatives over a fixed, unelect public service over which the electorate has no influence. There doesn't seem to much point in voting for people who ensure us that they are there to help us, but then appear to have no authority to do that.

Nothing from ttbn to substantiate this "story", could it be a figment of his imagination? What do the hard right like to call it, fake news. It seems ideal fodder for some of the 'Usual Suspects' to get their rocks off with in the conservative echo chamber. Yep, ideal material to attack Labor, public servants, all those they despise.

But if it was in the news, I'm sure ttbn would provide a link, not done so far.

just like he claims to know how people vote.
Paul1405,
I do & I can prove it. Intelligent & responsible people vote Conservative !

Paul,

If you had read "I heard this morning a woman living on Kangaroo Island saying that…..", you would not be calling for a 'substantiating reference'. I was listening to local commercial radio. Just how do you propose that I 'prove' something I heard to you? Let's say that I could go to the radio station, get the woman's name, contact her, and ask her for a statutory declaration that what she said was true, how would I get the proof to you? An anonymous doubter, living who knows where, who wouldn't believe it anyway.

If you think that I made up the story, that's fine. No skin off my nose, but it certainly shows that you are off your rocker. Trying to howl me and other posters down, as you do all the time, won't help you with your obvious inadequacies.

ttbn, surprisingly such a news worthy story does not seem to be in the mainstream media, yet it would be ideal material for the Murdoch gutter press. I don't know which one of your favourite shock jocks you were tuned into at the time, but its not beyond them to invent a story like that which is lapped up by the like minded listeners. The story has all the elements that would appeal to someone such as yourself.

So, its not reasonable to question a story you present? I'm sure any unsubstantiated story on my part would soon be questioned by you, or one of the other crusty old forumites.

Imagine for a moment if it was a SA Labor Govt & a conservative bureaucrat ?

" I can prove it. Intelligent & responsible people vote Conservative !"

Indy, your are not offering yourself up as proof that, intelligent and responsible people vote Conservative?

It could be worse, I suppose you could be offering ttbn as proof, I had a terrible thought, you could try to give Hassy as proof! A worse nightmare, you could even submit ALTRAV as evidence that intelligent and responsible people vote Conservative! Oh the pain of such thinking, that you would believe any of the above are intelligent and responsible people.

As I said a while ago: why would anyone bother starting a thread and give an idiot like Paul the chance to rant and rave. We seem to be rid of Foxy and Belly, thankfully, but this bloke is working overtime to replace them.

ttbn, don't like to be questioned do you. Why should I accept what you say at face value.

There is no ranting or raving on my part. You started a thread with something you supposedly plucked out of the air (waves). A short internet investigation on my part could not find any reference to the "story" in the mainstream media. I find that very surprising considering the "story" has all the elements of a juicy bit of titillation for the likes of the Murdoch gutter press to run with. I only assumed you heard the "story" whilst listening to one of your favourite right wing shock jocks. With the reputation these airway clowns have, its not beyond the possibility the "caller" was nothing more than a put up stooge with a manufactured tail to tell. Its not uncommon for people who thing like you do, to fall for that kind of rubbish hook, line and sinker. You lap it up!

Stupid government = stupid voters = even more stupid government!

Paul,

Your miserable attitude towards people hurts you and you alone. I know what I heard, said by the person involved. What a lousy, horrible thing your meaningless life must be.

If you don't accept what ttbn says at face value, then according to ttbn you have a lousy, horrible, meaningless life. Putting yourself up on a very high pedestal ttbn. What I have done to you, I recall you and others of your ilk doing the same to some other posters, Foxy for one, always demanding links as evidence that what she had claimed was fact, all claims had to be substantiated in some way. What, are the hard right posters the only ones to be trusted with the truth?

" …. always demanding links as evidence …"

I never demanded links from that woman or anyone else. She saturated the joint with links - one of the most irksome things about her. And the links referred to were from people with the same ideas as she had - or they were where she got her extremist views in the first place. Proved nothing.

I know that you, as her little lap dog, are finding it hard that she could no longer tolerate not being admired and agreed with to the point that 'it affected her health', and she left. No more "Dear Paul" for you. Now, it seems that the other drama queen, Alan Bell aka Belly, has gone too, and you are all on your lonesome.

You can be as obnoxious as they were if you wish but, if you are intending to lay into me to to satisfy your sour attitude, forget it. This is the last response that I will ever make to your nonsense. There are enough posters here with something to say that isn't just getting the dirty water off their chests. You are irrelevant.

The title of this thread should really be "Seriously Stupid SA Government Bureaucrats".

individual,

Yes, them too. But we elect politicians in the belief that they will direct public servants, not meekly take their advice.

The most expensive hospital in the world - the replacement for the Royal Adelaide - was blacked out again yesterday. Surgery was cancelled (one person had his skin cancer removal finished under torch light), because the back up the generator didn't kick in automatically. One moron tried to blame the Victorian connector, which would have seen the entire state out of that were true.

And, the idiot premier has just announced that there will be more alternative energy and fewer emissions than even the most halfwitted Labor politicians have come up with.

The big deal in Adelaide the moment is about a male politician slapping a female one on the arse!.

The big deal in Adelaide the moment is about a male politician slapping a female one on the arse!.
ttbn,
That has been accepted & even thought of as a compliment for thousands of years until the Leftists started to believe that human & even animal instinct can be legislated against !
It just highlights their stupidity !