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Oath by Members of Parliament

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Nobody forces the Members to take the oath but those who advocate a Republic do so knowing that they commit perjury.

As they are such willing perjurers how can we trust them to do anything honestly?

Their word can never be trusted.

Why do they do it?
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 26 December 2019 8:43:45 AM
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As a native Australian you may express your desire to do away with my Queen, but as an immigrant, on becoming an Australian citizen I promised my allegiance to Her Majesty, Her heirs and successors and so it will remain even if Australia becomes a republic.

Its good of you to stand by your word Yuyutsu,
I'm a 9 or 10th generation Aussie,
My family helped build this country and fought the nations wars.
- And I'm not constrained by any such promises -

My loyalty is with the Aussie citizens who don't identify as immigrants, not the Queen.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 26 December 2019 8:57:50 AM
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The following is additionally sworn by the PM, Ministers and Parliamentary Secretaries,

I, (name), do swear that I will well and truly serve the people of Australia in the office of (position) and that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Australia. So help me God!"

Again those who so swear and advocate a Republic commit perjury and are liars and not to be trusted.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 26 December 2019 9:32:09 AM
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Dear Is Mise,

«As they are such willing perjurers how can we trust them to do anything honestly?»

So much for trusting a politician to begin with, even without perjury...
Scorpions may be cute, but cuddling them is another thing.

«Again those who so swear and advocate a Republic commit perjury and are liars and not to be trusted.»

I wonder about your feelings towards anyone who, while committing perjury, is not a liar: Suppose they declared loud and clear in parliament: "Look guys, I am about to say those words which the law requires, but know well that I totally despise their meaning and have no intention to follow through, I will only utter this formula so that I can sit here and repeal the need for anyone to utter it ever again"?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 26 December 2019 11:53:51 AM
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Yuyutsu,

None of them have ever had the guts to say that.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 26 December 2019 1:03:24 PM
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Issy, did PM Turnballs swear that guff about the Queen of England when he took over from the Mad Monk? After all Turnballs led the republican side in the past, how does he stack up with you. All these pompous anachronisms need throwing out with the rest of the dirty dishwater. Politicians can swear allegiance to AUSTRALIA, and not to some old tart in ENGLAND. How about it?
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 26 December 2019 8:42:20 PM
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