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Oath by Members of Parliament

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Why are our elected leaders swearing allegiance to the head of a foreign power. What's the Queen of England to us anyway? On apar with the King of Jordan as far as I'm concerned. May as well swear allegiance to that joker as well, while we're at it.

I know an old monarchists like Issy needs the bloody old stick in England to cow tail to. But its about time Australia assumed it own identity in the world, its the 21st century, not the 19th, and Britain and the British have no real significance to the majority of Australians. Take one look at that bunch of hereditary inbred's and you would choose a republic any day.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 25 December 2019 10:04:03 PM
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Paul,

As you well know they swear allegiance to the Queen of Australia, so is it your personal opinion that it's OK to commit perjury or are you writing as a Green?

I'm surprised that anyone is defending perjurers and liars.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 25 December 2019 10:59:56 PM
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Salutations Issy,

I must admit I was on my 12th beer for the day, or was that the 14th, when I wrote that masterpiece of a comment above. The King of Jordan Abdullah II, where did I dig him up from, that should have read the King of Saudi Arabia, King Salman, more you kinda guy, and he's got oil, please forgive me. This whole discussion of yours has absolutely no relevance to the average Aussie, he/she don't give a rats about the Queen of England, unless of course they read the 'No Idea' or 'Woman's Monthly' mags to get the latest goss on that number one dysfunctional Pommie family, who have no oil.

My thought is we should drop that whole anachronism of swearing allegiance to the Pommie Queen, or any other hereditary wombat, no disrespect to King Abdullah and King Salman who have oil intended, right out of the picture. Over to you!
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 26 December 2019 6:17:08 AM
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Dear Paul,

For your information, King Abdullah II of Jordan, like his late father King Hussein before him, is a kind and liberal man who serves his people well. Jordan is peaceful under his rule, unlike most of the Middle-East, and is relatively prosperous (despite the economic setback of having to host 1.4 million Syrian refugees). Mind you, he does not drink alcohol nor murders his journalists. Without him Jordan would be hostage to Muslim extremists and look much like the violent and impoverished West Bank and Gaza nearby.

As a native Australian you may express your desire to do away with my Queen, but as an immigrant, on becoming an Australian citizen I promised my allegiance to Her Majesty, Her heirs and successors and so it will remain even if Australia becomes a republic.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 26 December 2019 7:29:40 AM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

Yuo wrote;

"As a native Australian you may express your desire to do away with my Queen, but as an immigrant, on becoming an Australian citizen I promised my allegiance to Her Majesty, Her heirs and successors and so it will remain even if Australia becomes a republic."

And therein I submit lies the difference between an Australian and an Australian citizen.

Yet it is an interesting take from you given your philosophical/political stance on nation states and governments in general. How do you reconcile both positions?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 26 December 2019 7:55:48 AM
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«Yet it is an interesting take from you given your philosophical/political stance on nation states and governments in general. How do you reconcile both positions?»

Promises need to be kept. It is not a matter of liking it or not.

That said, our gracious Queen, unlike the Canberra regime, is kind and unimposing. She does not interfere with our lives, but just lovingly sits there allowing us to look up to Her and love Her as well. An Australian head-of-state is not likely to be as kind and patient.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 26 December 2019 8:35:13 AM
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