Mr O study the posts of mhaze, he has many very much like him
The world has always had more than its share of mhazes
They grab the next big thing, dump their prejudices on them, and forget truth
Trump right now has only one thing going for him , and it is not honesty
He has the Democrats on his side
three weeks from now he knows, he will have been put through the mill, he will not be impeached his numbers in the senate rule not justice
He has an ego the size of an elephant, and may fake illness may not stand again
But America has become a joke world wide because of him

I gave up on the thread twice so far
We are not truly looking at the implications of this present day China
It is about to be the world biggest economy, it wants more
If China never tries a conventional war to gain its wish, it could do much the same with trade wars
We must understand it, putting our trade before our countrys safety we are working for them not us

Belly,

Trump is trying to stop China from becoming the world's biggest economy and subsequently the world's leading superpower.

I entirely agree with your concerns about China. Napoleon warned the world never to awaken China because he had the foresight to see the consequences.

I believe China is intent on taking over the nations of southeast Asia and Oceania, including Australia. And I believe the Chinese Communist Party has been deliberately sending people it knows it can rely on when circumstances change to make that possible. How many Chinese in Australia are preparing for that day? Quite a lot I imagine, all looking forward to creating a Chinese Australia.

Pauline Hanson is not one of the nation's gifted minds but I think she hit the nail right on the head last week when she said she saw a future Chinese Australia.

I think China is preparing to do what Japan failed to do in the 1930s/1940s.

Belly,

The problem with quoting CNN is that CNN has given up any pretense of being impartial to the extent that while playing to their core democratic base their overall audience has been crashing and largely being taken up by the somewhat less partial Fox news.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2019/04/30/cnn-drops-26-percent-in-prime-time-as-fox-news-dominates-april-cable-ratings/#18798ae13c59

As for Trump weakening the west, that is laughable. At worst he has upset the neo socialist dominium that was developing which was more content to virtue signal than provide any determined resistance to Russia, China or Iran.

SM,

You've got it all wrong. Belly wants it to be true that Trump is weakening the west and all the other grumph he goes on with. There's no evidence for the claim. No examples. No argument. Nothing other than that he wants it to be true. And for Belly that means it is true. He's incapable of seeing beyond that.

The sad part is that Belly is sincere and, I imagine, he thinks that by opposing Trump he's supporting the workers of the US. Because in the black/white world of Belly, Republicans are the equivalent of the Libs, and Democrats = ALP. Of course that's also not true, but Belly won't understand that.

In fact, Trump is the best thing to happen to the US working class in a generation and if Belly really did have the interests of the working class in his heart, he'd be Trump's greatest fan.

But that would require understanding what's really happening rather than living in this fantasy-land of Orange Man Bad.

Shadow Minister MHaze time is very near gentlemen for your serving of humble pie, it will be large
Trump these days looks very grim as his support shrinks and CNN? look at all AMERICAN NEWS ,not just the Murdock version of Gobbles like lies
This next two weeks will do great damage to the misplaced ego/fraud Trump is
AT After Trump watch the ex supporters try to distance themselves
Mr O yes!
Trump has every right even a duty, to fix the balance of trade issue with China
Too address that countrys THEFT of others inventions and property
But his loud mouthed look at me style is childlike, as is he unlike Trump China will still have power in 2021