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Dear Foxy,

Simply put, the Greens are ex-Labor adherents who want to distance themselves from any centrist and right views. They are totally irrational and there is only one way to do things - their way!

How's that for an explanation of the Greens?
Posted by Mr Opinion, Saturday, 16 November 2019 6:21:11 AM
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Mr O true, Franklin River a gift from Bob Hawke started them
And yes right now some in my party are in fact greens voting for them in the senate and us in the lower house
FEW know CFMMEU in part fund them, and talk them up at mass meetings
Let me be honest some of their policies are kind hearted and good, but increasingly outsiders took big roles in them
NSW very very left [communists in fact] just one of the weird ones
Now yes overnight close down of coal mines may seem good,but voters will never think so
Having policy after policy that maintains your ten percent base, but feeds the ninety percent who think you are mad is, well you tell me
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 16 November 2019 12:44:05 PM
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"How's that for an explanation of the Greens?" wrong Mr O, not correct.

You say "(The Greens) who want to distance themselves from any centrist and right views" Half right to a degree, we do more than distance ourselves from the extremist right wing, we oppose them completely. The draconian policies of the Hansonites and others on the far right, along with the aims of the far left, totally ridiculous, collectivisation, nationalisations etc. These things are opposed by the vast majority of Australians, those not of the 2%, and are opposed by The Greens as well.

The Greens agree with, and support 90% of Labor policy, and a fair bit of LNP policy as well. Unless those parties policies are radical in the extreme, and I doubt they are, more likely overwhelmingly moderate and centrist policies, in the context of Australian politics The Green Party is also a moderate centrist party.

To give examples, gay marriage, Australians of the centre were in support of GM, so were The Greens, therefore the opposing view was the extreme. Climate change, the majority of Australians emanating from the centre of politics want action on CC, so do the Greens. It is the extremist mob who oppose any and all action on CC, not the moderates. Most of the mainstream argument revolves around the degree of action, not if action should be taken or not.

Point out extremest policies of The Greens, and that will give weight to your argument.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 17 November 2019 4:19:41 PM
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Dear oh me!

Poor old Albo could not attend the Victorian State Conference of the ALP, for fear of a walk out by delegates. Is Labor a united party? Me thinks not. Instead Albo sent along his glove puppet Richard Marles, so the delegates walked out on Mr Whathisname instead. if Albo is still around in 2030, he'll still be in opposition.

As John Setka from the CFMMEU told Albanese, “grow some balls”

p/s Good to see the only major party to increase its primary vote in the federal election was The Greens +0.17%, Labor -1.39%, Liberal -0.68%, Nationals -0.10%. The decay of the big two continues.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 17 November 2019 5:05:25 PM
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Hi Belly,

I find the greens far too constrained by ideology to do anything economically useful: Anti-nuclear. Anti-coal. Anti-geoengineering. Anti-irrigation projects. Irrationally supportive of renewables.

One example: Australia's highly variable rainfall is dependent upon evaporation from the surrounding ocean. The current dry weather is due to anomalously cool ocean temperatures. It may be possible to increase the amount of evaporation from these cooler areas, but the greens are opposed even to research to determine the feasibility of such an approach.

As for their wonderful humanitarianism, they are geographically blinkered in this respect.

I hope you are safe.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 17 November 2019 5:38:16 PM
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http://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/young-people-are-terrified-adam-bandt-defends-greens-rhetoric-on-climate-and-fires-20191117-p53bb5.html
Fester thanks, never been in danger but feared I was about to be, my bad fire is yet to come without rain it will
Saw that Paul, still like to one day have a coffee with you and yes some of what you say is true
But while two truly silly Nationals, one a drunk the other a spineless fool out did your mob, read the link
Time for truth and reality
Facebook is full of anti green WRONG charges that they stopped winter burns
Not true, but the fact voters think it is is the bottom line
YES Fester we can have Nuclear power do it SAFELY and by doing so never need any other action to meet out climate change targets
We can see if we want to,if ten in a hundred vote green but ninety never will, they are unlikely to ever rule
Only in the chook pen we call senate can they BLACKMAIL a government and the majority of voters
ten percent V ninety percent? halve the number of senators triple the votes needed, make it three year terms in step with the lower house,not the current six, let Democracy breath and majority rule
Posted by Belly, Monday, 18 November 2019 5:29:10 AM
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