"VOTERS not party are in the end who say if we are getting it right"

That's right Belly, and 2 out of 3 voters are saying Labor is not getting it right. Instead of fudging the figures, and crying in their beer, Labor should be working on becoming the "natural majority" that they always claim they should be. 8 out 10 who vote for The Greens, vote that way because they prefer The Greens over Labor. All you want to do is disenfranchise 10% of voters, because they wont vote for you. Hitler believed other political parties were an impediment to his good government by the National Socialists, so he outlawed them, problem solved.

Ho Hum! Another tiresome post on matters that you have not been able to back up,
Keep up the lies Herr Goebbels.

Paul,

Similarly, 90% of Australian voters think that the greens are a joke.

2 out of three? Trump like that Paul
But yes ninety percent will not have a bar ever, of the greens, this country needs clear choices
IF Labor wins the next election your mob will stifle reforms it always has always will a vote for the greens is a wasted vote
Either Liberal or Labor the only clear headed choices

And 100% of Australian think you are a joke Shadow Minister.

John Edwards, now that name must ring a bell with you Issy. With the assistance of the Australian chapter of the NRA, the SSAA, an organisation I believe you are also a member of, Edwards obtained a gun licence. With his brand new legal gun and licence Edwards proceed to murder his two children. Now that is wacky!

Issy, if I'm Herr Goebbels, you gotta be Heinrich Himmler.

IF Labor did not exist the greens would still not win an election
Understanding why we the ALP have slipped to 33 percent of the first preference vote interests me
I blame no one but us, highlight our true left
But how many truly know and understand how many one notion voters preference us?
Then the greens, never forget, never say they all preference Labor, most do not all
If the greens did not exist however?ALP primary would be eight points higher
Do the maths
WHY why indeed voters are not all brilliant thinkers,some would buy shares in the harbor bridge
Liberals have always known this
Right back to the 1970,s Labor has had members who struggle to understand that
Confronting but true some voters left us because they wrongly think we are like the greens