Paul like the ALP understanding why voters rejected us and continue [apart from the chook pen] continue to reject your mob is the only path to take
Sorry but my words mirror those from hundreds of lunch rooms on construction sites I once visited

Hi Belly,

"hundreds of lunch rooms on construction sites" The stamping ground of the CFMMEU, a nice $20,000 to help the Greens. My son-in-law (crane operator) staunch CFMMEU. He seen the value of union membership after a fight last year over wrongful dismissal. A couple of suits came down, thinking to throw their weight around. The collar and ties found an error in our boys paperwork, sacked! Well not according to the union, threatened to shut the site down, the suits soon seen the error of their ways. BTW, thanks to the CFMMEU the son-in-law is on $190k base pay, 9 on 5 off, 10% of gross as redundancy payout, plus general entitlements, on time bonus at end of project. Looks like he'll walk out with $50k on completion after 18 months, not bad.

Just on SHY, before you blast her, she is a thorn in the side of the jackasses in government, and will support Labor at a pinch. Save the vitriol for Hanson, Bernardi etc those types who are always with the other mob. I know the NSW x-senator you speak off, always fine with me, did a bit of door knocking together some years back, easy to talk to, got on well.

Belly,

It seems that Labor is stuck on its maximum support of about 33 % of the vote. The Greens seem to be stuck on about 12 %. Unless there are other pseudo-left parties, that seems to make up a maximum possible vote of 45 %.

Are those two parties playing Corbyn's game, of putting forward such idiotically extreme policies that they are guaranteed not to get elected ? So that they can stay out of power, but remain pure in heart, truly virtuous, true to their policies unto the death ?

Brilliant strategy ! So it's Morrison until at least 2030 ?

Joe

Loudmouth and Paul for that matter, the thread was always going to be inflammatory
See we stand at a cross road, Labor lives or indeed dies,on its ability to stop Conservatives using the greens against us
Labor must take a step to the right
Now Paul highlights the CFMMEU, a big donor to his party
Back to those lunch sheds
I charge the then CFMEU with job destruction
They [naming my union Australia's Weakest Union] pushed construction wages so high *road construction now is mostly a casual workforce*
Could write line after line of thug like blackmail and down right criminal acts
But highlight this truth THEY BILL OUT OF WORK MEMBERS FOR UNION DUES
And threaten court action
Back to Labor, just as CFMEU members flocked to my union, they do not want a leftist government, they do want social justice but not purely left policy
They do not want union controlled ALP
We must again move with the voters, not try dragging them to places they do not want to go
So? take on the greens highlight them for what they are DARE THEM to not preference us, watch the clay feet crumble as their voters understand only Labor can take government from conservatives

Belly,

I was recruited by a Member of the NSW Parliament, at a time when Labor was in power, to help stack a branch, before the upcoming election.
The poor fool had no idea that new members didn't get to vote, which was a guarantee against short term stacking.

ise mise me too!
Yes an ALP stalwart came to me with offer if I wanted to take over an extreme left branch
He became a seat warmer, up to his chin in Rudd's knifing
So yes the ALP right stacks nearly as well as the LNP and both could learn from NSW Greens [Soviet Union branch]
Nevertheless voters force parties to change even when they do not want to