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Posted by Max Green, Sunday, 1 December 2019 11:45:24 AM
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Max Green you seem to be right, we can not rule our selves but a world wide dictatorship may be the answer
It however is more likely to be China style or big brother In no way beneliavent The thought expressed that such a plot is in play right now highlights this How did the plotters get so much ice to melt How did they start so many parts of the world to burn Produce record heat cold flood drought weird weather? Posted by Belly, Sunday, 1 December 2019 3:02:53 PM
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Dear Belly,
You hit the nail right on the head. It will be China that pushes for a unified socialist system. Unfortunately it appears that socialism is going to be the only system that can guarantee an equitable distribution of resources in a world devastated by the consequences of AGW. Australia is already on its way to having a Chinese future brought to us by greedy politicians, bureaucrats and business people who are only worried about how much money they can stuff into their pockets. If you don't believe Australia has a Chinese future then pay a visit to Sydney and have a look for yourself. I was waiting to get off a crowded train the other day and was surrounded by mostly Chinese; I could see one other Aussie and was tempted to tap him on the shoulder and say 'Not many of us left now.' Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 1 December 2019 3:20:49 PM
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Belly,
Surely you're not too old to remember Nazism and fascism, and how Stalinism was hardly that different in practice ? That all non- (i.e. anti-) democratic forms of society trend rapidly to totalitarianism, and thereby fascism ? The idiocies of one-world-government will move in exactly that direction, and currently, as you breezily point out, uner Chinese fascist rule. Thankfully, Australia and New Zealand will probably never agree to be under one government. Nor India and Pakistan. Nor even Sudan and South Sudan, Kosovo and Serbia, Russia and Ukraine, Canada and the US, even Russia and China, Britain and Ireland, and so on. It's a fascist pipe-dream. Move on. Joe Posted by loudmouth2, Sunday, 1 December 2019 5:33:43 PM
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Dear Belly,
I like the way Loudmouth is trying to fool you into believing that we have nothing to fear from the Chinese. Keep in mind he is pro-China and the last thing he wants is for people wanting to reject their future Chinese overlords. A Chinese invasion will come to Australia. That's as certain as death and taxes. Are you aware that the Chinese invaded Indonesia (specifically Java) in about 1270 AD. The Chinese still believe they have suzerainty over most of Southeast Asia (eg. their recent annexation of the South China Sea). Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 1 December 2019 5:59:50 PM
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Dear all,
France nationalised their electricity grid during the 1970's oil crisis. They were burning OIL for electricity. They realised it was a matter of not just comfort, not just productivity, but of national security and civilisation itself to keep the lights on. They nationalised the grid and at one stage were building 15 reactors a year. They are now 75% nuclear, 25% hydro. While they nationalised the energy sector in a massive public private partnership (PPP), they did NOT become a totalitarian state. REPEAT, FRANCE SOLVED CLIMATE CHANGE IN THEIR ELECTRICITY SECTOR WITHOUT BECOMING A DICTATORSHIP! Mystery of mysteries, it can be done, and I don't even have to wear a tinfoil hat or tune into my astral stones to detect it! It's history! It happened! And despite what people might say about Macron, they're still not a dictatorship! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_France How can this be? (Runs off to sit under a glass pyramid and chant for an hour for personal safety from the things and whatevers now that I've pointed out the tinfoil hat industry can collapse!) Posted by Max Green, Sunday, 1 December 2019 6:48:44 PM
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We don't need a one-world-dictator to solve climate change, but just the usual diplomatic pressure of constantly nagging each other to do the right thing.
But when you think of global governance, why 1 dictator for the world, and not a world democracy? Why is world governance a bad idea? We have the UN, but it currently works by having diplomats doing dirty deals behind closed doors. What if we brought all that stuff out into the open and voted on it?
I'm not saying this is going to happen any time soon. It may take centuries! Or not. The EU is gradually moving towards one Federation. The AU is taking baby steps in that direction. MERCOSUR is a joke, and hasn't increased the free movement of trade around South America much at all but it exists and they might catch a vision of what it can achieve one day. Slowly various regions of the world that used to be at war with each other are putting differences aside and figuring out how to work together. Bit by bit. It has ups and downs. One day, with a variety of new regional super-powers of Europe and Africa and South America (USAN), maybe they'll be able to make a global governance structure?
In my opinion the only salvation for civilisation and the human race lies in the creation of a world government, with security of nations founded upon law. As long as sovereign states continue to have separate armaments and armament secrets, new world wars will be inevitable.
Albert Einstein