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Dear Not_Now.Soon,

What rot.

We have had a catastrophic start to our bushfire season here. It is now overlapping with that of California meaning once shared fire fighting resources are now not available. There is every indication this is a new normal which is frightening, and yet you are off in some other location telling us we don't have a problem?

This is a real issue, not a fake disaster. It is an emergency in a very real measure of the world even if your politics doesn't allow you to acknowledge it.

So forgive me if we don't take you seriously.

As to no action you obviously haven't visited my state in a very long time if ever. There are extensive renewable projects both completed and planned which are making a significant difference even without Federal Government support.

To say there is no action is a demonstrable lie and I would thank you to cease propagating it.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 30 November 2019 4:02:55 PM
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California and even within the Arctic circle have had huge fires in their summer
Right now we are not alone, for other reasons the Amazon is burning and parts of the sub continent
Australian droughts can not be blamed for that
Feeble straw clutching to deny climate change is if nothing else amusing
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 30 November 2019 6:06:52 PM
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Why hasn't anyone mentioned the ITER project when discussing alternative fuel sources?
Posted by Mr Opinion, Saturday, 30 November 2019 7:02:26 PM
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Hi MR OPINION,
Fusion has an AWESOME potential, and I don't for one moment rule it out. But it's too far away to make a difference now. While I LOVE Molten Salt Reactors, we haven't even built the first simplified Thorcon non-breeder reactor yet. ThorCon has super-cheap MSR safety and is mass produced in a shipyard block-build assembly line. 7c / kwh! Not a breeder reactor that can eat nuclear waste, but on a podcast I listened to the founders of both ThorCon and MCSFR seem to be friends. Thorcon produces the ideal waste stream for MCSFR's to build.

Baseline point? ThorCon + MCSFR's could take us HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of years into the future without needing another primary energy source, even if we don't discover how to do fusion or space based solar. But if we DO learn to do fusion? That's one of the key ingredients into a post-scarcity economy!

FUSION by ISAAC ARTHUR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChTJHEdf6yM

POWERSATS (SPACE BASED SOLAR POWER) by ISAAC ARTHUR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBCbdThIJNE&t=1s

It's just these have to be cheaper than Thorcon + MCSFR.
Posted by Max Green, Saturday, 30 November 2019 8:44:15 PM
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You guys are a riot. You know that? Do a quick Google search on the world's top polluters. See where Australia lines up. If it's not in the top ten, then what chance do you think green policies are going to have an effect for your fire seasons?

Follow my logic on this one. Global warming is considered a disaster in the world wide sense. Meaning that unless the largest contributors of pollution curb their pollution, the world is still screwed.

What are the chances that you can convince multiple countries to stop their manufacturing industries and shut down their economies? What's needed is practitical solutions to POLLUTION in general. Have that and more countries will likely jump on board because regardless of global warming scares, they all see the harms on their people living with the polluted air, or polluted water.

Practical solutions. Guess what that could also include? Not just pollution or global warming, but also fire management solutions to try and reduce the risk for Australia. What is all the effort for a greener Australia done for you? It's created a political storm, and a global warming hype that can be the brunt of the blame for enviornmental issues, with no real search for solutions.

(Continued)
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 1 December 2019 3:22:38 AM
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What a bunch of laugh riots. Seriously guys, I don't care what you believe with global warming or not. Be fooled into it if you want. But don't buy into the narrative that continually changes the goal posts of it's scare program. Look for practical solutions. But don't throw away your current solutions until you have something that works to take it's place. Look at new technologies. If they work, then you might not only help the local enviornment of Australia, but you might also find another reliable source of energy, or at the very least have a place that can eat up nuclear waste for a small amount of energy. Then you can put up nuclear energy plants and salut reactors to supply both energy and a solution to nuclear waste.

Solutions guys. Really hard concept I know when bickering about the "truth" of climite change is a topic. But try to focus for a minute before continuing on with the insults to your favorite scape goatee "denialists." Focus. Solutions. Otherwise what is any of this except running your mouth off and causing divisions?
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 1 December 2019 3:23:06 AM
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