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Posted by loudmouth2, Sunday, 1 December 2019 7:36:29 PM
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Loudmouth,
If the hat fits ............... Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 1 December 2019 7:41:45 PM
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To Max Green.
Regarding a democratic approach or a dictatorial approach consider this. We're not talking about one nation changing it's economic and energy landscape. We're talking about a world wide change (if global warming is taken seriously and given real preasure to achieve). Then on top of that there is the narrative that we're on the verge of a world wide collapse. That fear based narrative has been on for several decades now and hasn't changed it's tune. For reference consider this news story a few months old now. http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-48964736 If this seems reasonable to you, then I'd wager that your in too deep yo that fear based ploy, and it's time to reconsider the actual situation the world is in. However, taking control of a world wide governance isn't the worst of the matter. It's also economic stability, and population control that wages a tyrannical dictator-like situation. Considering the economic issues remember the yellow vest protects in France. http://foreignpolicy.com/2019/11/29/emmanuel-macrons-france-yellow-jackets-police-europe-year-of-cracking-heads/ For population control consider this news story (a few years old but still relevant due to population control in Global warming narratives. https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/9/26/16356524/the-population-question A quote from the story. When political movements or leaders adopt population control as a central concern ... let’s just say it never goes well. In practice, where you find concern over “population,” you very often find racism, xenophobia, or eugenics lurking in the wings. It’s almost always, ahem, particular populations that need reducing." Another news story to consider the issue: http://msmagazine.com/2019/09/24/population-control-isnt-the-answer-to-our-climate-crisis/ Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 1 December 2019 10:33:15 PM
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All of that is on the basis that we take Global warming seriously instead of as a passing thought. The reason to hold it as a passing thought instead though I've already explained a few times as have others regarding the climite scientists reliability versus their unchanging rhetoric of an emergancy and last chance, fear based hype. There is no reliability in their predictions therefore no reliability in their science. The main issue should therefore be taken away from global warming scare scams, and put onto the actual real issues of pollution, waste management, clean water, and other enviornmental issues for local areas.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 1 December 2019 10:39:51 PM
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Mr. O
Once again if this is the strength of your education then one should ask one of two questions: "did you actually get the education you claim" or "what's wrong in the education system to produce you as a result." Consider this. -You claim to be a sociologist, yet all you can do online is insult others. That is your one and only contribution to any discussion. Something is amiss between the two, -You claim to seek the truth and then your next post misquotes and slanders Loudmouth. Take that critism as seriously (or as personally) as you want but until you do, all you are is a joke. Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 1 December 2019 10:53:50 PM
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Being honest here, think the thread is drifting away from its intended path
Maybe not however from some of the things said in the link I shared on starting it An overview of that report, to me at least, highlights we humans have a very poor record of managing the planet and ourselves Loudmouth 32, quite rightly, said one world government would, or was it could be, unpleasant My view however is unchanged if I wanted to start a not now soon type conspiracy it could start this way A look around the world will find few leaders worthy of our trust Many communities marching in the streets demanding far better government This climate change debate, setting people against one another All, in my fallacy [or is it?] view to promote a desperation, a feeling that dictatorship is better than what we have Remember that old mantra * when Dictatorship arrives some will [quite wrongly] call it freedom Posted by Belly, Monday, 2 December 2019 5:23:04 AM
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So when I write, "The idiocies of one-world-government will move in exactly that direction, and currently, as you breezily point out, un[d]er Chinese fascist rule. ...." somehow that's pro-China ?
Is English your second or third language, and in your first language are there problems with the negative ?
No, China (per se) didn't invade Java in about 1270 AD. For one thing, we would be talking about the attempted Mongol invasion of China about then. Secondly, it didn't succeed.
They also tried to invade northern Vietnam, from overland and from up the Hong River, but that failed too. They had their arses kicked there too.
In fact, for all the claptrap about thousands of years of Chinese continuity, it's interesting that the Mongols and the Manchus controlled China for close to five hundred years over the last millenium. Even the Mings, in between, may have had a good deal of foreign influence, strangely from Christian missionaries. And perhaps the Tangs before the Mongol invasion as well. Can you interpret those comments as somehow pro-China ?
Joe