Issy, did Bonking Barney allege dead and living Australian soldiers threw bombs at children. He must have read 'Scorched Earth, Black Snow' by Andrew Salmon, plenty of first hand accounts on that very subject given in the book. You should have a read, it might open your eyes to the truth

Dear mhaze,

Stop being so bloody slippery mate. You had been talking about trend lines right through our conversation and asserting they were going up.

“the trend-line for 2007 to 2018 has been progressively more ice”

Then you give a 'simplified version' of what? A trend line of course. One which took against you very own advice “two carefully selected points and take them as a trend”.

The Sept 2019 figure is very much confirmed so stop trying to slither away from it.

You have attempted statistical bastardry and been found out. You really should be ashamed but as is usual for people like yourself you have instead tried to double down.

You really are very ordinary aren't you.

Once again this is the link to the actual trend line for any who are bothering to follow this;

ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/north/monthly/images/09_Sep/N_09_extent_anomaly_plot_hires_v3.0.png

Paul,

You and the truth are as far from each other as DiNatoli and reality.

His latest gurge doesn't say anything about clearing gumtrees away from buildings.

Sr,

For Christ-sake, this is just getting silly. Are you really that desperate to prove black is white?

Here's what I've said earlier....

"for 1979-2006 was for progressively less ice, the trend-line for 2007 to 2018 has been progressively more ice."

Both those statements are true.

"minimum sea ice extent has INcreased by 10% since 2007."

Again true. Unless you want to use the unverified 2019 numbers in which case go for it. I prefer to use real data.

As to my last post showing calculations as to the ice, I specifically said I was keeping it simple ie no trend lines just proof that the ice minimum has increased.

As to using 2007, call it a cherry pick if you want but I wasn't hiding it. I mentioned it from the outset. The trouble is that you forensically parse each post to search for any ambiguity to hang your daft notions on. I feel like I need to run each post past a lawyer.

Here are the facts: (not that you'll care)

1. The claim was it would be ice free by 2013....it wasn't.
2. Not only isn't it ice free, but from 2007 to 2018 the minimum ice levels rose.
3. Even if the 2019 levels are confirmed, the trend will still be up.
4. If the theory that these things are cyclical is correct, then there will be an inflection point at some time. At the moment that looks like 2007. So not a cherry-pick but an identifiable change in the data.

IF you are so concerned about getting the full picture, why go back to just 1981? http://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/86917-1.jpg

Oh and just to make it clear, this whole thing grew out of me saying 2013 wasn't ice free. In SR-land, that isn't true for totally unrelated excuses....or something.

So again SR. Where the predictions about 2013 shown to be true or false?

Issy, you have read the Andrew Salmon book, have you? Are you claiming the first hand accounts of war crimes committed during the Korean War by Australian and British soldiers are fabrications or distortions of the truth?

You can only hope that Morrison has learn't that you can't appease the gw Marxist alarmist. He wasted another billion dollars by giving it to the renewables fraud recently. In response he has been called an arsonist. I would say he would be totally foolish to continue wasting money on this religion. The fraudsters will still be wanting more and using autistic children and corrupt 'science' to continue their cause.

btw is Foxy, Steele, Paul, Mr Opinion or any others protesting outside the Chinese or Indian embassy yet? Thought not. Obviously unable to think past this very flawed narrative.