Fake News has impacted on the ability of some to think clearly
Right now that product of the very right [implemented to confuse and constantly abuse any truth] is running wild with this subject
It may be hard for some of the wheelchair warriors here, but getting out in the unburnt forest, then the burnt one would bring wet eyes to anyone
NO animals could have gotten away from some firestorms near here
A million plus hectares burnt out, not yet summer
I WISH it will not be true, but I fear for the unburnt forest right behind me
At Christmas, and I will never know why, Victorians camp in there
By a creek before it becomes a river under trees, we call it the mud flats
They if it goes up? have zero chance of the single one road 14 klm drive out emergency? hope I am wrong fear I am right

Dear mhaze,

Trying to deflect I see after getting caught with your pants down.

Twice now you have asked;

“BTW SR were the predictions about 2013 shown to be true or false?”

Of course we both know that earlier I had written;

“Now the fact that a small group of scientists predicted 2013 as the date the Arctic would be ice-free and were wrong is not in dispute.”

So the only reason you have raised it again is through desperation.

And it makes you look like an insufferable idiot who can't admit when they are wrong.

Grow up.

Belly,

I'm in the bush and the nearest gumtree is 500 metres away, there are trees near the house and sheds but no closer than 100 metres except for the shade trees but all the close trees are proven fire retardants.
Not my doing but done donkey's years ago when property owners could manage their properties without Green instigated interference, all that we do is maintain the early setup and relentlessly dig out any gum seedlings that shew themselves.

We also have reserves of water that is for firefighting only and is never used, it's in underground cisterns that were built over 150 years ago and still don't leak although the water is a bit manky!

This is worth reading,
"TAKE THE EUCALYPT OUT OF INCENDIARY DEBATE
'The Australian' 1/1/2010 - By Robert Darby and Nick Brown"
http://www.smalltreefarm.com.au/Aust-Article-Take-The-Eucalypt-Out-of-Incendiary-Debate.pdf

Ise mise my place is my fault, I am the first to live here, relocated Sydney 1970,s home on what was a cattle paddock
My trees are mostly bottle brush, first lot selected for their height 6 to eight meters tall
Only natives here all for birds and me to enjoy, plus a few fruit trees
Sadly had to remove mulberrys great plums, [3 fruit bearing] pair, loved that
But tank water and flying foxes do not mix
Four other houses, same history, flanked by highway grown over two feet deep fire feed
And a 20 square meter heap of drain blocked timber half a meter height, constant requests see zero action
So it will burn, believe me it concerns me
Last night I lost server, just got it back, and the highways was blocked yet again
A two week old fire went tropo again, it started in forest 20 klm maybe more, from the sea, and went there and 25 klm south, last night it took off in a westerly run not yet over
Climate emergency [lack of rain] brought these fires to us

SR.

"So the only reason you have raised it again is through desperation."

No I keep pointing it out since, in the end, after all the wriggling nd squirming, the fact remains that my original point remains unassailed and unassailable.

So now that we've established that your whole argument falls apart because of the illogicality of thinking that two years with the same levels of ice are simultaneously critically important and mere outliers (doublethink lives in SR_land), we find SR reverting, as per usual, to ad homs.

Ad hominem, the refuge of those who can't cut the mustard.

Now we all know that you're going to dispute that analysis, so, while doing so, perhaps you could enlighten us as to how 2007 is a mere outlier, while 2019, with the same levels of ice, is the year you choose to hang your hat upon.

To Belly.

Glad to hear you're still alright. Hope you stay well.

The dryness, both from a lack of rain, as well as from heat drying the land after a rain are aspects to watch out for. But I don't think those are contributed by a world wide climate change due to excess pollution. However, even if that is a factor, the issues of climate change won't fix fire hazards and fire seasons. Instead climate change will become a scape goat without any practical solution.

For the time being, there are nations that have such a problem with pollutionin their cities, that citizens have to wear face masks when going outside. Some even recommending their people to not go outside as much. Those nations with these problems aren't going to stop their pollution. Maybe someday that will change, but for now, you can't count on that and will have to manage how to handle brush fires on your own. World wide pollution isn't changing. Making climate change when an emergency a scape goat with no actual solution.