Saw all posts, Paul rough diamond here old mate but I truly am afraid,
100 Meters visibility here and for the surrounding hundred k,s this morning
Tanks near empty, have at most 400 gallons, lawn dead forrest tinder dry
Near here [totally true] floating down ash on fire about three inches square and ten k from the fire
Wind picked up and by nightfall? my home may not be here
Shadow Minister truly pleased you are safe, mate if you sat with me on watch on my veranda you would not question the word emergency
So many years ago, this then not quite a teen ager fought the fire that took Almertons only school with? milk from a tanker,
We can only hope if nothing else,the inquiry to come ensures when safe controlled winter burns are ALWAYS done,
Will post local fire map next post
Regards all

Come off the raw prawn SR, you can't just make things up when you are talking to most on here. "CO2 makes up about 20% of that effect", what drivel. Careful there mate, your lack of math is showing. We may have raised the CO2 by 0.004%, which can cause a similar percentage of stuff all.

No amount of CO2 can increase the temperature by more than 0.78 degrees C, & that is recognised by even that august body, the IPCC.

Yes climate changes, but it in not puny man doing it. In fact if the current trend in sunspots continues, we are in for a very cold couple of decades getting towards a Maunder minimum.

The fact is eastern Asia & the US have been cooling [using raw figures,even NASA figures, not concocted tortured figures] for a couple of years, with resultant crop failures. The growing belt for corn & Sorghum have moved some couple of hundred miles south of their usually areas.

Do try to keep up with what is happening in the world, rather than in the computers of the scam brigade old mate, if you want to be taken seriously.

Dear Hasbeen,

This has never worked in the past so I am not holding my breath but how would you like to show us where you pulled this from;

"No amount of CO2 can increase the temperature by more than 0.78 degrees C, & that is recognised by even that august body, the IPCC."

What a load of crock.

http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/fire-information/fires-near-me
Here is the fire closest to me, at day break not one of the 70 still burning was at warning
Now seven are,never seen it so hot and dry, never
Too Australian National Highway cut again, 3 klm south of me and north about 40 klm, no traffic moves
Hasbeen steelredux has a point, you will need something far better to convince me
Explore that page if you go to the link, then see QLDS too

Climate emergency is challenged in another thread and here
Try this, my small village has become a refuge for hundreds of trucks unable to drive on either national routes Pacific and new England closed
A town not far north, one of three, is under warning to leave, two hundred homes!
The same fire that closed this road from Friday till yesterday, now has a circumference of at least one hundred klm, it is heading my way, north east winds due to switch around midnight here, southerly buster coming
IT will change the direction of the fire
50 burning in NSW 11 at danger level half [25] out of control
That number was 7 just hours ago
dry winter stopped burn off yes tree huggers too but every attempt to burn got out of control
Me? 5.000 liters of tank water left,if power goes off? no water, if planes drop water? fire retardant may poison me
We have a climate emergency right now
[lost three more homes this day] in this fire stay safe Queenslanders

SR,

"So yes you did assert there was only one."

NUP - I pointed out that you mentioned one.

"I would love to see what torturing you have had to do with the data to get that result. So how about you tell us what have you used."

I already told you. I used the Sept 2018 figures. They are the most recent confirmed minimum figures. Its not as simple as this but let's keep it easy for the innumerate. September 2007 minimum 4,160,000 sq km; September 2018 minimum 4,660,000 sq km.

(4660000 - 4160000)/ 4160000 *100 = 12% which I rounded down because I'm so fair-minded.

"You say you never made the claim the animation wasn't from NASA but here are your exact words; “The link I was referring to wasn't the NASA video but this one (https//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Disappearing_Ice.webm).”"

At the time you made two links. One was from NASA the other was unintelligible. It now turns out the unintelligible one was also NASA. Who knew?

" Show me any other scientific study which independently said the region would be ice free in 2013."

That's the entire point. There are no studies. The claims were widely disseminated but had no basis in fact. Just like the claims in the opinion piece masquerading as science that started this thread. That was my original point.