Paul1405,
I was a Public servant hence my constant drawing attention to the antics I have witnessed from fellow PS. Your rhetoric identifies you as one of those who is getting paid for being pointless !
Just because 25-30% of an organisation do a good job doesn't make the rest a viable force except to boost Labor votes !

Indy, from my years of experience it is usually the biggest dill in the organisation that thinks everyone else are the biggest dills. were you dismissed due to incompetence?

Belly wrote :" I think you do not care if we continue to create second class people leading second class lives"

Oh I get it now. You simply didn't understand the proposal.

Because under my proposal the only people worse off than now would be those who weren't really unemployed or were unemployed but had no desire to actually work.

The genuinely unemployed would end up with both a job and either the same amount as they are currently getting from their unemployment benefits or, in most cases, somewhat more.

So no class warfare...just helping the underclass to start moving upwards.

Unfortunately for those people, too many others aren't really interested in mechanisms to help them up, but really just want to use them as totems to denigrate society. Are you one of those Belly? Or do you sincerely want to see other proposals that would help the underclass?

mhaze we should each take a look at the others thoughts, not who they vote for
Then judge what we see
I see in you a could not truly care less approach to the subject
My idea is just my view, but some future government will WILL, introduce some thing like it
Nothing is ever perfect, nothing remains the same forever
In the thread we mentioned that sleazy disability pensioner
Now maybe the time to widen my claim, he could and in my view should, do some type of work
Doctors do! at least in some parts of this country, help the work shy get disability pensions
It provides them with assured government income, looking after them
FRAUD needs stamping out
Just being forced to attend, and carry out, work, will unmask hundreds, in my view thousands who should not be getting it
No need exists to flog the unemployed who truly want a job
But in two generations after such a scheme came about people would see the very real benefits

Right now, in rural and city's bosses find people on welfare, employ them at below award cash in hand wages
Once employed they know the boss can report them, for fraud
Fair minded bosses have to compete with such bosses
Ending that is one out come of fairness in work for the dole
In one case only, do I think existing work could or should be done by unemployed, others may exist
But assisting drought affected farmers or rebuilding after bush fires fences and such can result in a return for welfare

Again Belly, you fail to comprehend the proposal...

"No need exists to flog the unemployed who truly want a job"

The proposal doesn't "flog the unemployed who truly want a job". It gives them MORE money AND a job.

If you don't want to understand that, not much more need be said.