We know, or should fraud exists we know or should some have been on the dole for ten years
I propose as both fraud ending and as a return for tax payers money, a different system,again
A true work for the dole for every one system
Straight away millions of dollars would be saved, because I have no doubts some receiving it are working as well under another name
Some are collecting it under multiple names
Forcing them to work, real work real effort real results of benefit to the community ends that
Real wages, real opportunity to train for full time jobs, to be regarded as work
A Cultural change to sit down money, of very real benefit to unemployed
BUT it must not become so comfortable some never look for a full time job

Belly,
I can not think of a better lead-in to this than a national Service ! After all, this is a mentality issue.

Indy at last we can come close to agreeing on some thing
I am not a right wing nut calling for pain for those on Social security while out of work
But yes work, of benefit to the community, yes in service to the community, not armed forces
And no! not near every such person is bludgeing on any one
But too many forget in fact far too many are
True, some are settled in to getting paid to sit down, some around here, and right along near coastal mountains, are growing dope stealing and just think we are fools for working
Mow my lawn charge me a cost, investigate me to ensure I am nor leaching of the system
Clean out the river of dead trees, stack the wood to dry, sell or give it to those in true need in winter
A girl leaving school, wanting to be a health worker can give back with training and work in that industry
Bush jobs, not in competition, like those river beds, isolate them for the unemployed make a back packers trail, over night camping for free, around the country as work for the dole work
Bludgers exist, protecting them is betrayal of the very many who need our help
A result would be taking away forever the thought every one is using us or needs testing

http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/the-number-that-doesn-t-get-enough-attention-in-our-national-debate-20190917-p52s7g.html
5 point something percent
Recon about eight percent are very long term, and in the end some are fraudulent
We have seen people arrested with four of five even more, fraudulent accounts that have run for years
So why not fix it?

The problem is that if we implement work-for-the-dole or whatever, it becomes a gigantic money pit.

Suppose you tell all these new workers that they need to dig a bloody big hole here in week one and fill it in in week two .and then repeat. Something simple like that.

Well we'd first need to provide shovels. Then supervisors. Then shovel training. Health and safety courses. Worker's comp. Accident insurance.

Before you know it, it'll cost twice as much as the actual dole to reduce the actual dole. We can't afford to reduce the welfare bill - at least not this way.

Dear Belly,

I certainly don't have all the answers to this
problem.

Just a suggestion that the government could possibly
look at how it dealt with the shortage of labour
in the post-World War II era and the programs that
were initiated then.

Between 1945 and 1965 more than two million migrants
came to Australia. Most were assisted. The Commonwealth
Government paid most of their fare to get to Australia.
In return they had to stay in Australia for at least 2 years
and work whatever jobs the Government gave them.

The first wave of post war migration began with Displaced
Persons (my parents and family were amongst them). These
people fled their countries which had been utterly
destroyed by war and over run by the Soviet Union.

Between 1947 and 1953 the Australian Government assisted
over 170,000 Displaced People.

The 2nd wave of post war immigrants arrived in the 1950s
and 1960s and consisted of those seeking employment and
better living conditions.

These programs were an enormous success.

We consistently hear in the news how rural communities and
farmers need workers. Perhaps the Government could help
out with providing similar programs now, to solve this problem
of labour shortages,
and ending fraud in unemployment benefits?

Just a suggestion.