SR,

For successful natural selection of any genes to pass onto future generations, reproduction needs to occur. Homosexuality makes that just a bit more unlikely ?

Joe

Dear ALTRAV,

We have very firmly established the fact that you are not a man as such but a child. Ultra childish adults are not normal, and I would claim, far less normal than our gay brothers and sisters.

To have someone like you far out on the spectrum calling themselves normal in any sense is if anything a little sad.

Perhaps some latency issues are at play here but whatever it is the more you rant and tantrum the more you expose your lack of normalcy.

I ask you once again to try and grow up a little.

Dear Loudmouth,

Granted, however they certainly can make great parents and provide and care for children in need.

Reproduction isn't the whole of the equation by any means.

SR,

by any standard, you fail to make the grade.
You are by far the most self centered, know-it-all,-nothing, on this forum, with always a snide word of condemnation for anyone, ANYONE!
Now you have opened your mouth and even though you are hard to understand, with your foot in it, I challenge you to comment on my points, if you dare, because as it turns out, children like yourself attack the messenger and not the message.
What is it, have you finally run out of arrogance?
I know you better than that, so c'mon, give it your best shot.
Like any child, you can't wait to go NYAH, NYAH.
So c'mon, critique my comments, I need a good laugh.
Your form of BS has no bounds, and you deliver it with such finesse, befitting that of a pretentious, pompous know-it-all, seeking to be the centre of attention, like the child YOU are.
We are excited to see what gems you come up with, can't wait.

ALTRAV,

Love it when you get angry, but it's a waste of time trying to get through to thicksos, wack jobs and lame brains.

Looks like the NSW Premier's job is on the line because she supported the decriminalisation of abortion bill. Spill on the way.

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Dear ALTRAV,

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You wrote :

1. « Your concept of normal is not in keeping with the society's expectations and definitions. I care not what some obscure academic contends ... »

Petter Boeckman may seem “obscure” to you, ALTRAV, but he is a reputable Norwegian zoologist who lectures at the Department of Exhibitions and Public Services of the Natural History Museum in Oslo.

As you can see from the article for which I posted a link, it was Petter Boeckman who stated that “There is no such thing in nature as ‘the norm of the heterosexual union’. Both heterosexual and homosexual unions are ‘normal’”. I do not pretend to be a qualified zoologist, ALTRAV. I was simply quoting Broeckman.

2. « Submitting hermaphrodites as an example of normality, is fallacious at best, in poor taste at the very least »

I did not submit that, ALTRAV. You are the one who mentioned “hermaphrodites as an example of normality” on this thread, not me. I indicated that “homosexuality is a perfectly natural phenomenon, just like heterosexuality”. The only other example I cited was parthenogenesis which I observed “also exists in nature”.

You are constantly confusing “natural” and “normal”. The two terms are different. “Normal” means “conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected” (OED).

Whereas “natural” means :

« Existing in or derived from nature; not made or caused by humankind » (OED)

As regards the “norms” in respect of sexual orientation in Australia, here are the latest statistics :

« In 2014, over half a million people or 3.0% of the adult population identified as gay, lesbian or 'other'. This includes 268,000 people who identified as gay or lesbian and 255,000 people who identified as having an 'other' sexual orientation. Just under 17.0 million adults identified as heterosexual. Identification as gay, lesbian or 'other' varied by age, with high rates in younger age groups » :

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/4159.0

3. « I base my opinions on what IS and not what ISN'T »

That’s encouraging, ALTRAV. At least we should be able to agree on the facts.

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