why not, do we gain anything by taking a side and not achieving much
cashless dole card, why not give [and expect] every one a short term job
refugees why not get all sides of politics together and set out a new law, do away with offshore detention, but make numbers firm, return boat arrivals
why not stop bleeding our cash and solve the problem
trying to justify the costs of offshore detention, like the side saying let them in, can not go on forever
we can, if we try, find a middle way

Dear Belly,

Well said. We should try to find a middle way.
People are getting so dis-appointed in our
constant bickering be it in politics or elsewhere.
Look at "Question-Time" in our Parliament.
They could do better in providing answers and trying
to explain things instead of the constant "Dorothy
Dixer" approaches, fighting and sloganeering.

Belly: trying to justify the costs of offshore detention, like the side saying let them in, can not go on forever.

This is one cost that needs to stop immediately. These people have been paid to leave & they are still there.

The UNCHR condemns Australia's Offshore Detention Centres as not being up to Standard but are a way ahead of anything the UN provides Refugees they look after.

The UNCHR won't support the people in the Detention Centres as they recognize that they are Economic Refugees, as such, they do not qualify as per the UNCHR Charter Guidelines. Also that they have crossed many Borders to get to Indonesia, also specifically no allowed by the UNCHR Charter Guidelines.

They must be given 30 days notice to leave the Detention Centres & go to any place that is willing to except them, except Australia, or be forcibly returned to their own Country.

It seems like these people, who say they are in danger if they return, have no qualms about returning once they are given residence in Australia. This, too, is against the UNCHR Charter Guidelines.

Belly: why not get all sides of politics together and set out a new law,

You will never get the Labor Party to agree with the Coalition on anything because if a Bill is passed, then that makes the Coalition look good in the eyes of the people, & visa versa. The people might be inclined to vote for who ever gets Bills Passed.

Belly: cashless dole card,

Ever notice the people who are "complaining" most about the Cashless Debit Card are covered in Tattoos, do Drugs, drink a lot, drive a hotted up V8 & do burn-outs, slides & street racing. One wonders how they can afford this on the Dole or what-ever money they get.

Strange that, Ay?

Belly,
I agree but how can we get those who disagree for the sake of disageeing to agree ?

Dear individual,

You asked 'I agree but how can we get those who disagree for the sake of disagreeing to agree?'

Answer is quite simple, change your name from individual to everybody.

I suppose the international position of a refugee is that, once the cause of their fleeing their own country (civil war, ethnic cleansing, victimisation, etc., etc.) has been removed, i.e. when it is safe for them to return, then they are obliged to do so if asked by their host country. Of course, in the event of very long periods in abeyance, they could be encouraged to take out citizenship in their host country.

But it seems anomalous that a 'refugee' should go to and from his/her original country without fear of arrest or worse. In that sort of scenario, in what way is he/she a refugee ?

Another unanimously-unanswered question is: given our current annual refugee quota of 19,500 or so,

* are people currently in off-shore detention, and those on the seas who slip through in the future, perceived as part of the annual quota; or

* are they add-ons to the annual quota ?

I can certainly understand and support emergency intakes, such as Yazidi from Syria, or Rohingya from Burma (i.e. the Arakanese, who fought and died on our side during the War, against the Japs, and against the Buddhists who sided with the Japs). I was talking to a lovely African lady on the bus, very serene, but who had spent eighteen years in a jungle refugee camp in west Africa. Eighteen years.

Sixty eight million people are currently displaced or in camps like that. You know, the people out of sight of our compassion and virtue ?

But people coming from a country without civil wars, or ethnic cleansing, or genocide ? Perhaps they can apply as immigrants.

Joe