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Hey Belly,

"why not stop bleeding our cash and solve the problem"
Maybe it's because bleeding our cash and not solving problems IS the solution.
Cloward and Piven.

Why not give [and expect] every one a short term job?
I tried to put forward this solution some time back.
- But it falls into the category of solving problems, therefore its a big no-no.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 13 September 2019 10:51:58 PM
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Refugees a harsh subject but one we must confront
Remember, tell me I am wrong, voters determine our policy's here
Face it Rudd got it wrong, voters said so
Fact is no party opening our borders will ever govern this country
And again, face it,we are being cruel to offshore detainees
Very cruel
They are like a neon sign, warning smugglers/refugees/financial migrants, do not come this way
Paul you must twist and turn trying to understand how an ALP stall wart, an ex true Socialist can utter these words
Tell you why,only a centrist party can ever remove the right wing Conservative one we now have, and the world continues to elect
A party moving with the voters, not proudly marching away from them and over a lemming like cliff
IF we bring every offshore detainee here we will see thousands, maybe a hundred thousand come in the year after
PS yes we continue to take refugees, migrants too, but we know who and what they are, this country needs them to sustain growth until we see even that can not be forever
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 14 September 2019 6:24:46 AM
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OK I said other types of compromise would get a run so here go,s
Why not take the combative part out of do we need a national integrity entity
And have one, with automatic intervention [with no need for anyone to interfere] to investigate every politician a claim is made against
EG Lue and the nsw minister being investigated after our state leader ordered it
Why thrash and bash around with unconfirmed charges if we can see the truth
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 14 September 2019 3:49:35 PM
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voters determine our policy's here
Belly,
No, they're merely reacting to what doesn't suit them ! The average voter doesn't give a damn about the next bloke. That's what we need to address. People need to become more caring & responsible. We had people join the Ratepayers Assoc. until it was realised all they wanted was for the Assoc. to hire Lawyers on their behalf, in a word they wanted free help & when they didn't get they declared the Assoc. useless. They were advised on what steps to take & some of the actions involved paying for legal advise. That's not what they signed up for & paid $10 they reckoned. ALP & LNP & ON supporters all of them. That's what needs to change & the only way to achieve that is via National Service ! Re-establish a sense of belonging & responsibility !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 14 September 2019 7:04:52 PM
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individual in fact your first line confirms my point
Voters vote, and they refuse to vote for any party that would open the door
Yes voters are not bothering to be informed
Some waste their vote , one nation for instance
Others vote greens, who only have power in the senate, because not enough vote for them in the lower house
But trust me, world wide [no matter what the UN wants, voters are confirming they do not want one world forced on them]
Aid and real efforts to end wars is the answer
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 15 September 2019 5:27:42 AM
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Aid and real efforts to end wars is the answer
Belly,
I agree ! However, Aid must be deserved & the effort that's needed is birth control. Idealism has only ever fed & kept a handful of hangers-on. Just look at that massive sponge that is the UN.
Look where Australian aid has gotten PNG ? Look at several African countries where aid has never filtered through to the needy ? I see on TV that 18,000 children die every day. How can that be explained ?
This thread's title is Compromise yet, compromise is frowned upon by those who perpetually push their idealist agenda. Why ? Because birth control is that Compromise !
You must read "Letter to the women of the World" by Prof. Dr. Hans Hass.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 15 September 2019 8:17:29 AM
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