Individual

"Letter to the women of the World" by Prof. Dr. Hans Hass.

And that published in "dive" magazine. No surprise really, For a letter written by a marine biologist.

It's another lonely call from a scientist who, having invested his life in ocean research, issues the clarion call of catastrophe the ocean is, in his final days. It's a lonely voice, but he is not alone.

During the obsessive bid to plunder the globe for profit, the giant that Capitalism is, has dismantled communities and the community morality and ethics, and replaced them with ideology, enforced with substitutes of authoritarianism and socialism and enabled rampant and unregulated population growth globally. Growth is its Bible.

In the words of Gough, nothing will save the Governor General; and you can bet, nothing will save the human race from fruits of its own greed and blindness.

Our Capitilist Governments, are locked into population growth. In unison on the deal.
Our communities sense the raw deal it is, but political systems are an iron fist of refusal to budge on the raw deal it is.

Refugees are an insignificant discomfort, compared to four hundred thousand immigrants year on year, entering into a country already reeling from the effects of overpopulation in the bad times.

Dan

a scientist who, having invested his life in ocean research,
diver dan,
Well, was obviously more of a diver than you ;-). His main interest was human behaviour.
No matter what, no reasonably sensible person can say he was wrong.
ALL our problems derive from greed which is enhanced by more & more people vying for the spoils.

Diver Dan maybe we do not need to be scientists
Drove down to the states central coast today [The entrance] spent a lot of time there in first half of my life
Visited Canton Beach, many my age can recall taking large garbage tin of prawns there
Stinking mud now
Fishing dead, sea polluted and lakes edges covered in rubbish
Market day, two different markets so the day was not lost, but it was sad

The stupidity of many educated is a compromise in itself, for us !

Individual, old mate consider this, you seem to think you are always right, and have the ability to tell if others are far from it
Now if we all thought and acted a like what kind of world would we have
A group exists insisting the world is flat
Another, seen here,is willing to harm the under dog to have a world interested only in profit
Just maybe open thought, the ability to think differently, is our best hope

OK it is not going any place this thread
I however remain convinced we all need compromise
So much junk comes from my way or no way thoughts
Politics has become one huge question time war, unrelated to truth or better out comes
Nation building can come if both sides agree to some compromise
Say both sides start right now a national plan to send water inland and build dams as pumping stations to do it in stages
First thing is both sides agreeing it is the right way not the ugly current water war based on one river system