Dear Loudmouth,

You asked;

“So provide some evidence: how much have world temperatures and sea-level risen in fifty or a hundred years ?”

Yet on a previous occasion you said;

“Out of all that, how much does CO2 contribute to the half-degree warming over the past eighty years, and the inch-rise in sea-level over about the same period ?”

So if you know the figures why are you asking?

You also wrote to Mr Opinionated;

“Then your logical course is to piss off and leave the discussion to grown-ups.”

That did get a laugh. Grownups?

But leaving that aside Mr Opinionated has finally realised that this is not a scientific discussion but rather a political one and to me he is acting accordingly. It appears it is getting up your noses a little which I think is fine. More strength to his arm.

Dear mhaze,

I so rarely have anything to retreat from so yes.

Which link are you going to flag as your best and I will undertake to delve into it further than a cursory reading.

HOLD ON A SEC...

Mr. Opinionated, after repeatedly saying your job profession are you now saying that you have nothing to contribute to the topic, because you are not a scientist? Then the point of your comments here is to what? ... Silence others from actually talking about it too? Comparing notes? Discuss if there is any real merit of the field of global warming?

I'll say it first. When talking about any field, people do not need to be an expert in that field to understand it and weigh it's merit. Don't believe me? Can you be healthy without a doctor? Can you understand issues around your own health when talking to a doctor? The answer is of course you can. The same answer applies regardless if the subject matter. Go to a car mechanic and find out how to take care of your car, then after that (if the mechanic was any good) you'll be in a better position for your car. If the mechanic was no good, you have to weigh his merit and consider finding a better one.

That is exactly what is being discussed here. The merit of climate scientist who say the end is near, and have been saying so for decades with no sign of their fears being justified. If you are not qualified to stay in such a topic you can go. The rest of us can continue on without your attempts to silence the topic or insult the people.

Go on, it's ok to leave. You've already said your opinion on this topic doesn't matter.

Dear Not_Now.Soon,

I research what scholars and sciences are saying about the environment. I am particularly interested in the interdisciplinary study of Water, which is a very important issue for Australia at the moment given the situation with the Murray-Darling Basin, droughts, and dwindling freshwater supplies to Sydney.

You global warming denialists are doing just as much damage to the environment as global warming itself because you are distracting peoples' attention away from the problems with your false assumptions and arguments. And all because you want to support the LNP. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that you and the rest of your know-all-know-nothing wannabe denialist mates have got shares in coal mining companies. Like I said, it's not about science but about politics and greed. Your pseudo-science is just a subterfuge for a right-wing conservative political agenda.

Dear NNS,

You say;

“The merit of climate scientist who say the end is near, and have been saying so for decades with no sign of their fears being justified.”

My god why are you so determined to be so bloody pig ignorant? Despite all the information on global warming that is out there from reputable sources and all the discussions we have had on this forum you are going to hold on to your political belief that there is absolutely nothing to worry about. That is the very definition if idiocy.

All the major scientific bodies studying climate change have shown how the modelling is being constantly verified and improved and that the trajectory for the warming of the planet is on track to deliver serious environmental consequences within our lifetimes.

Locally we have 'unprecedented' fires burning across southern Queensland so early in the season;

“The manager of the QFES predictive services unit, Andrew Sturgess, said the fire conditions were unprecedented in Queensland. "It is an historic event. [We've] never seen this before in recorded history — fire weather has never been as severe, this early in Spring," Inspector Sturgess said.”

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-08/queensland-bushfires-continue-stanthorpe-applethorpe-binna-burra/11489304

The approach you seem to be taking is that of someone being warned that modelling is showing that a meteor is going to strike the earth in a year's time but refusing to have anything done about it until you can see it with your naked eye. That is utterly childish.

Dear SteeleRedux,

For the GW denialists it is all about one thing: keeping the LNP in government. They want crackpots like Tony Abbott and Barnaby Joyce running the country. Their pseudo-science is concocted to garner support for their right-wing conservative agenda. The good side is that as the effects of global warming become more severe the denialists will fade into the background and eventually disappear. But only after leaving the planet in a state of environmental destruction which they helped bring about.

Catallaxy Files this morning: no warming since 1876? and a pointer to a book 'Don't Sell Your Coat: Surprising Truths About Climate Change'.