MR O in his normal moronic fashion asks " why is it that Hasbeen, Josephus, ttbn, Loudmouth, individual, runner and mhaze refuse to accept what the scientific community is saying?"

The fact is Mr O doesn't know and doesn't want to know what this fictitious "scientific community" is saying. He's just bought the meme of settled science without any thought and wonders why others don't follow his moronosity.

In a previous thread I showed him some members of the so-called "scientific community" who didn't accept the AGW theory. His response was to simply ignore it. Not try to debunk it or rebut it mind you. Just pretend it wasn't there even after showing it to him several times.

So its not a question of those mentioned not accepting "what the scientific community is saying?". Its a question of those people knowing and understanding all the nuances of what the scientists are saying, including all those scientists who don't accept the CO2/AGW hypothesis.

I've used a few big words there so I've probably lost Mr O. But the rest will understand.

Misopinionated,

No, I'm not a denier, I'm, if anything, a sceptic, a questioner: so I'm asking you, the font of all wisdom with your new associate diploma,

* . how much has average world temperature risen in the last, say, fifty or a hundred years ?

* . how much has actual sea-level risen in, say, the last fifty or a hundred years ?

i.e. evidence. Provide it and, if it's alarming enough, I'll be suitably alarmed.

After all, without evidence, you're no better than a heretic-burning Catholic from 500 years ago, aren't you ?

Or maybe it's just easier to 'rebut' and ignore the above requests with some pissy insults. We're big boys on OLO, insults don't mean much, most of us have seen and felt far worse, and got over it. But when you play with adults, Misopinionated, you need to provide more back-up than the silly insults that might frighten your adolescent mates.

Joe

mhaze,

There’s lots that young Master O doesn’t understand about everything. He clearly doesn’t know that the “scientific community” has in it a lot of scientists whose own studies have shown AGW to be tosh.

Joe,

Leave the ‘c’ our of sceptic and you have a good description of what the boys is. Agree with you about the insults. Most of us have been around too long to be fazed by school yard attempts at insults.

Opins said;
And as an environmental sociologist I am ideally placed for that task.

Hmm, well that explains everything. I suppose that is one of those
photocopier degrees !

We can’t even get the boy wonder to explain just what ‘environmental sociology’ is. There are vague murmurings about society’s interaction with the environment. Mutterings about Charles Darwin. Nothing about hard science. It looks like one of those bitzer degrees, invented to continue filling the universities bottomless money boxes because there’s a shortage of Chinese.

When he says, “I am qualified to comment on the hard science of climate, because I am an environmental sociologist, and as an environmental sociologists, I know this, that and the other’, people might take notice. But he won’t do that, so nobody takes any notice of him.

The discipline of sociology pertains to the study of the development, organisation, functioning and classification of human society. It’s not a science. It has nothing to do with climate change, meteorology or anything remotely to do with with climate change.

When people hear of a ‘sociologist’ of any kind, they usually think ‘left-wing twit’. Now, while sociologists might know something about the human condition, they are no more qualified to pontificate on climate change that a fish monger is. They are certainly not qualified to bad mouth any poster here. We don’t even know if this bloke even has a job. Probably not, given the time he has to spend bashing our ears.

My nephew is an environmental engineer - and I know
how hard he worked to get his degree. He's been
employed ever since he graduated. Currently he's
in New Zealand working on a massive project there.

I wasn't quite sure what an environmental sociologist
did though so I looked it up:

http://environmentalscience.org/career/environmental-sociologist

Fascinating stuff - and by no means light-weight.

I wouldn't go around bagging any form of study though
because I know from experience that studying and achieving
and finishing in any qualification is not an easy thing
to do. Even more so - while working full-time and raising a
family. So kudos to those who do undertake studies in any
shape or form. It changes your life and your outlook.