JSP1488: "I would consider most non-White races to be ‘lesser races’. When the White voyages of discovery reached the Americas, the natives had not even invented the wheel, apart from on toys. When they explored Africa, all sub-Saharan tribes were primitive. In Australia they discovered a Stone Age people (possibly the survivors of the Neanderthals)... Also, I do not consider the ancient Chinese as a ‘lesser race”, considering their achievements in science and exploration. They did degenerate in later times. Possibly they were subjected to the same kinds of pressure that the White Race is now under by the PC movement.

So, CJ Morgan, if you don’t agree with my views, I’m a ‘babbling clown’?"

No, it's because you write racist claptrap.

JSP1488: "As for you labelling me a racist, is that meant to hurt me? If believing your own race is better than others is racist, that’s what I am. But as you claim race doesn’t exist, how can racists?"

Racists are people who believe in human 'races' and act and speak as if they exist, usually to the detriment of people whom they categorise as other 'races' to their own. I'll give you credit for admitting it, but that doesn't make your ideas any less stupid or offensive.

"Ginx,
The big difference between us is that my views against MC are supported by rational, reason and facts, whereas you have just chanted MC, MC, MC and expected to be believed. You have not put forward one reason to support your views. You cling to an ideology and like "Unity in Diversity" the ideology has failed." (Quote:Banjo)

Whatever. Don't go getting yourself all upset. If you are the master of rational/reason/facts there is no reason to be is there? Poor boy.

"Interesting to note that the Minister for Immigration and Citizenship delivered an eight page speech last week, in Sydney, about immigration and not once was the MC word used, but the word integration was used many times." (Quote:Banjo)

OH MY GIDDY AUNT!.....he never mentioned it? Not once? Not one itty, bitty time? Any one would think he was a grubby little neo-con.NOOoo..., that can't be. (Adjourns to get the smelling salts.)

"Ginx, if it isn’t for you ‘prove a negative’, that’s a cop-out for refusing to answer a question and asking another in return. Yet you accuse me of twisting it round. If this is you doing it your way and responding as you choose, I’m wasting my time trying to have you reply as you will only respond with another question." (Quote:JSP1488)

JSP-er......; it's debatable whose time you are wasting. Glad you're going to give it up; it's a bad habit to get into.

"The concept of ‘lesser races’ can be proved by science. Each race can be physically and mentally tested (read ‘The Bell Curve’) and results charted..."etc..,etc..,zzz...,etc..,zzzzzz..,et..,zz.,e...,zzzzzzzzz.(Quote:JSP:1488)

Pathetic. Poor boy

JSP,

Hmm lets see why eugenics was discredited. Oh yes, thats because it was adopted as a core by such luminaries as Hitler and the Japanese military. Who then conducted some truly horrific experiments in order to prove themselves correct.

The Bell Curve that you so helpfully point out has been pretty much debunked by the scientific community as being poor science. Have a read of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve#Contradictory_findings

I don't generally trust ranking systems like IQ as they reflect the subjects access to educational facilities as much as any innate intelligence.

If you were truly going to run an experiment to prove or disprove the concept of racial superiority then you would need to take 100 of each "race" and raise them in exactly the same manner, conduct examinations of each group at the same time over the course of their lives and then correlate the data.

Of course by the time thats done, a whole new field of pseudo-science might have cropped up which proves that because a certain groups hair coils one way they are obviously only good for menial labour.

CJ, you just confirmed your programming by dismissing my posts as ‘racist claptrap’ while failing to address my questions and statements addressed to you in my previous post. Also, how can an idea be ‘stupid or offensive’? I’m not offended by your ideas, only amused. Maybe your skin is pretty thin.

If you don’t believe in human ‘races’ here’s another question for you to avoid. The Chinese and Japanese look on other races as inferior or ‘devils’. The muslims see us as infidels and kuffar that have to be conquered. The jews see Gentiles as inferior, and refer to our women as ‘shiksa’ which comes from the Hebrew, ‘sheketz’, which translates as ‘abomination or ‘detestable’. Are these examples racism?

Every time you avoid a question or statement just strengthens my views.

Ginx ‘JSP-er......; it's debatable whose time you are wasting. Glad you're going to give it up; it's a bad habit to get into’. So it’s a bad habit trying to have you make a straightforward reply to a question is it? Not only are you a waste of time but a waste of space. Tell your giddy aunt that one. As for ‘etc..,etc..,zzz...,etc..,zzzzzz..,et..,zz.,e...,zzzzzzzzz’, that’s really constructive. If you are intellectually unable to make an intelligible reply, maybe you shouldn’t bother. I await your next funny post. BTW, what’s your ‘poor boy’ obsession? You’re not a Catholic priest are you? Or a scoutmaster?

James, I already told you about the assault on eugenics, but you came up with the old, hackneyed arguments about Hitler et al. Eugenics is older than Hitler and has outlasted him.

‘The Bell Curve that you so helpfully point out has been pretty much debunked by the scientific community as being poor science. Have a read of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve#Contradictory_findings’

Of course there are always contradictory findings, just as the holies debunk evolution. It doesn’t make them right. Also, you should understand that Wikipedia is not a fail-safe source of information as anyone can edit it until the next editor changes that and so on until eternity.

If you don’t ‘trust ranking systems like IQ’, what is your method of measuring intelligence? Many studies have proved that IQ is independent of education. Take the ‘upper class twit’ as portrayed by Monty Python. Most of us have encountered such types who have been to all the posh schools and colleges yet lack the sense that those of us, who never had their education, possess. Just look at our politicians.

‘If you were truly going to run an experiment to prove or disprove the concept of racial superiority then you would need to take 100 of each "race" and raise them in exactly the same manner, conduct examinations of each group at the same time over the course of their lives and then correlate the data.’ As far as was possible, the subjects in ‘The Bell Curve’ were taken from similar types of backgrounds and situations.

The reason I mentioned how ‘a certain groups hair coils one way’ was to point out the obvious. That it is more than a matter of skin colour. Otherwise, by the end of summer I would look African, wouldn’t I?

GINX....

you have yet to hear 'all men are equal' especially from a Christian ?

err.. ALL MEN ARE EQUAL... there you have it. But equality before God is an aspect of creation, 'moral' position is a different kettle of fish.

"Behavior" is what separates the sheep from the goats. If God has said "A,B,C" and men seek to do 'NOT_A, NOT_B, NOT_C' ....then.. they are incurring a just 'reward' for that, or at least a moral assessment of such conduct.

"I was hungry, and you didn't feed me" "I was cold and you didn't clothe me" that kind of thing.

Intrinsic 'equality' is nothing to do with moral performance, or spiritual position, based on ones relationship to the Creator through faith or non faith, acceptance or rejection.

In Gods eyes there is no such thing as 'lesser/inderior' races, but it is possible that a 'culture' could be inferior to another, depending on the degree of it being permeated with God honoring values.
But 'inferior' is a very relative term, and not one which should in practice be applied to particular cultures. It is, however possible to observe that some cultures are 'hostile' to Christian values or not.

One such example is a tribe in Irian Jaya which was the subject of the book 'Peace Child' where their highest virtue was 'treachery' and when they heard the story of Jesus.. "JUDAS" was hailed as a hero