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Change Australian culture?

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JSP1488,

Oh boy, multiculturalism brought about the end of the roman empire? You have got to be kidding me. The romans had for hundreds of years imposed their culture on other people, and while they were pretty relaxed about letting subject peoples practice their own religions, they had no problem with crushing a people if they felt they were getting to big for their boots.

What killed off the Roman Empire was politics. Once the republic was killed and it was established as an Empire, it was started down the road of fragmentation.
Posted by James Purser, Friday, 10 August 2007 3:33:56 PM
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James P wrote "multiculturalism brought about the end of the roman empire? You have got to be kidding me".

The later Roman Empire allowed mixing with the southern Mediterranean races which, along with the introduction of Christianity, weakened the polluted Indo-European make-up of the Romans.

The original Romans were of a fair racial type - just look at the ancient sculptures etc. The dark, dare I say it, woggy look came through mixing with the lesser races, partly through decadence and partly through the so-called Christian all-men-are-the-same preachings.
Posted by JSP1488, Saturday, 11 August 2007 12:01:27 AM
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James, there is a big difference between cultural change and cultural extinction. History is littered with examples of civilizations disappearing under the weight of large immigrations of people indifferent to the host culture.

If present demographic trends continue, it is likely that Australia's current majority population will become a minority in its own birth-country within a few generations. Such a massive demographic transformation will undoubtedly spell the end for the Western culture and traditions that most of us would call Australian. The cities and towns will continue to grow, but the civilization that built them will be facing extinction.

Australia has taken an existential risk in importing such large numbers of non-assimilating peoples from nations vastly different from our own. And if we are making a fatal blunder, it is not a decision we can ever revisit.
Posted by Dresdener, Saturday, 11 August 2007 12:11:47 AM
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Writing about the decline of Roman civilization, U.S. historian Will Durant noted:

"The rapidly breeding Germans could not understand the classic [Roman] culture, did not accept it, did not transmit it; the rapidly breeding Orientals were mostly of a mind to destroy that culture; the Romans, possessing it, sacrificed it to the comforts of sterility. Rome was conquered not by barbarian invasion from without, but by barbarian multipliation within."

Australia and the rest of the Western world seems to be going down the same path towards self-destruction.
Posted by Dresdener, Saturday, 11 August 2007 12:22:49 AM
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Dresdener,

First off, what massive demographic change? Our two biggest sources of immigrants remain the UK and New Zealand, two nations which have very similar cultures to our own.

Secondly, the romans did not fall due to contact with southern Med races, they were a souther med race. You can't really get more southern med without hitting africa or the middle east. Pretty much all of Europe hails from indo-european stock, with the exception I think of the celts.

Thirdly, there is ample evidence that many of the germanic tribes did actually take on roman culture. They were soldiers in Roman Legions and fought against other germanic tribes who were on their way through.

Fourthly, the romans fell because they had weakened themselves through centuries of low level civil war(roman v roman) which had started long before the germanics arrived on the scene. By the time the last sack of Rome occurred, Rome was an empire in name only, having split into basically two different empires, East and West. The West fell and the successor states took over. It took a while longer for the East to fall, but it did, helped in no small part by the successors of its Western holdings.
Posted by James Purser, Saturday, 11 August 2007 1:44:05 AM
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JSP
your pretty rude and stupid
"lesser woggy types" you wrote
thats shocking rascist talk
Australia was built by a wonderful mix of colours, we are all Aussies now, including our mixes of Aussie Aborigional
Im a whit Aussie_english and Irish and from a line of cocky white breeding_whom considered themselves more fortunate than others when it came to DNA, but i my friend , would have preffered colour of the skin, not only does it look great with a T_shirt and shorts...nbot to mention swimwear, one dosent Turn beetroot red with quite the fury when one has colour
you dont sound like an Aussie to me_true Aussie's arnt so damned ignorant, Phooey to your skin colour / rascist/ rotten write up!
Posted by mariah, Saturday, 11 August 2007 2:19:45 AM
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