JSP1488,

The field of eugenics has been pretty much shot to pieces thanks to certain practitioners during the mid 20th century.

The concept of "lesser races" is oh so definitely not based in science. Instead it generally comes down to some sort of religious concept getting dressed up in pseudo-scientific babble. Much like intelligent design (they still haven't answered the fundamental question about that one either).

Now please enlighten us as to what you consider to be a "lesser race", also please point to scientific studies that conform to scientific method(ie the results can be proven or disproven, there are control groups, etc, etc), and without reference to any religious tract.

Ginx,
The big difference between us is that my views against MC are supported by rational, reason and facts, whereas you have just chanted MC, MC, MC and expected to be believed. You have not put forward one reason to support your views. You cling to an ideology and like "Unity in Diversity" the ideology has failed.

Interesting to note that the Minister for Immigration and Citizenship delivered an eight page speech last week, in Sydney, about immigration and not once was the MC word used, but the word integration was used many times. This would have been unheard of, only a short time ago. The Opposition has not found reason to contradict or question what the Minister said. Both major parties are in agreement about the dumping of MC.

I am glad you cannot contest what I had to say in my previous post as I have better things to do than argue with you.

I look forward to us being far more selective in the migrants we allow with the emphasis on those nationalities with a proven record of integration.

Here's a radical thought. What if multi-culturalism and integration aren't mutually exclusive?

What if we can expect people to integrate at least as far as accepting our system of laws and learning the language of the nation (that of course would require the government to stop underfunding the english language classes), but at the same time say that we can accept that people have different religions or cultural beliefs.

Believe it or not, we have always been a multi-cultural nation. From the Irish, Chinese and Afghanis in the 19th century, to the greeks, italians, vietnamese and so many others of the 20th century. All of them have brought something to this country which we really couldn't do without.

You cannot realistically claim that those who support Multiculturalism want to "destroy" our system of laws and government, any more than I can claim that the majority of those opposed are neo-nazi skinheads. There is a middle ground which can be found.

Quite so, James Purser, Mariah and Ginx. There is nothing incompatible between multiculturalism and integration, nor is there any reason that Australian culture should (or could) remain static. Cultures adapt and change over time or they die out - which is the best lesson our various history buffs and armchair eugenicists can take from history.

The clowns on this thread who babble on about "lesser races" and a "multi-racial" Australia are by definition racists. Anthropologists generally agree that the biological term 'race' is not applicable to humans, since there is much more genetic variation within the so-called 'races' than between them.

Those who attach unwarranted significance to trivial phenotypic differences such as skin colour are racist - but most of you are in denial. Your bleating about the supposed dangers of multiculturalism is a way for you to express your racist sentiments in slightly less obvious ways than used to be the case - with the exception of the execrable comments by JSP about "wogs" and "lesser races".

Bugsy, by using the term race, you admit that differences do exist. Therefore, if there are differences, why can’t certain differences make one race ‘better’ than another? East Africans are better runners than I am. Genetics proves race differences. As for your Roman hypothesis, you must have different history sources from mine. The Indo-European Italics migrated south into the peninsula around 4000 years ago. In later times they did mix. How else can you explain the typical Italian look of today and reconcile it with the typical Italic as portrayed in ancient Roman sculptures etc.?

Ginx, if it isn’t for you ‘prove a negative’, that’s a cop-out for refusing to answer a question and asking another in return. Yet you accuse me of twisting it round. If this is you doing it your way and responding as you choose, I’m wasting my time trying to have you reply as you will only respond with another question.

I do believe that internet correspondence is part of the real world, but only part. It’s just that when you wrote 'I have yet to see an all-men/-equal thing from a Christian; 'specially here!', I was pointing out that outside can be different from on-line.

James, the field of eugenics has been assaulted by certain practitioners during the mid 20th century. This was done at the cease-fire of hostilities of the mindless war of the twentieth century by leftists whose purpose was to undermine the West. They started in the colleges and universities and produced professors and teachers to go out and ‘educate’ the young in their creed. This was the beginning of what would become ‘political correctness’. The students were gradually indoctrinated into the various views that were designed to undermine the West, White world. Sexual equality, racial equality, gay rights etc., while anyone who simply questioned these changes to the normal way of life was vilified as chauvinist, racist, homophobe. Most valid questions were answered by angry outbursts and name-calling instead of constructive discussion. The end result is a generation or two that think as their teachers have taught them

The concept of ‘lesser races’ can be proved by science. Each race can be physically and mentally tested (read ‘The Bell Curve’) and results charted

I would consider most non-White races to be ‘lesser races’. When the White voyages of discovery reached the Americas, the natives had not even invented the wheel, apart from on toys. When they explored Africa, all sub-Saharan tribes were primitive. In Australia they discovered a Stone Age people (possibly the survivors of the Neanderthals). For scientific studies I again mention ‘The Bell Curve’ and also ‘Genes, Peoples and Languages’. Also, I do not consider the ancient Chinese as a ‘lesser race”, considering their achievements in science and exploration. They did degenerate in later times. Possibly they were subjected to the same kinds of pressure that the White Race is now under by the PC movement.

So, CJ Morgan, if you don’t agree with my views, I’m a ‘babbling clown’? That’s rich coming from you after you commend posters such as the illiterate and inarticulate Mariah. As for you labelling me a racist, is that meant to hurt me? If believing your own race is better than others is racist, that’s what I am. But as you claim race doesn’t exist, how can racists?

‘Cultures adapt and change over time or they die out’ Not true. Some cultures take over from their host culture. Christianity took over the Celtic world, the Roman world and, at one time, a large part of the civilised world. Now the muslims are looking to go down the same road.

You refer to ‘trivial phenotypic differences such as skin colour’. If you paint an African white, would he look like a White man? What about facial feature, lips, jaw, nose? Curly, woolly hair? Never thought of that, did you?

Are you serious or are you just using your pre-programmed high-school-inducted ‘anti-racism’ thought processes to try and grab centre stage? How can you accuse some posters of ‘bleating’ when your views expose you as the sheep?