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Mass Shootings In America, A Reminder To Australia.
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Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 5 August 2019 6:01:35 PM
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Paul,
"Those far right pro gun organisations in Australia I mentioned, continually try to white-ant our fairly robust gun laws at every opportunity..." Come on give us a reference to back up your ridiculous claims. Truth is you can't but there is plenty of evidence about the time that the Greens in the NSW Parliament refused to back tougher gun laws proposed by the SF&F Party. I wonder why that was, maybe frightened for their criminal mates; something similar to when they objected strongly to sniffer dogs going after drugs. http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/feb/16/sniffer-dogs-greens-nsw-renew-push-to-end-their-use-in-stop-and-search Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 5 August 2019 6:16:09 PM
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Dear Paul,
Here's another link that really worth a read: http://www.vox.com/2018/8/29/17792776/us-gun-deaths-global Amazing what you can learn with Google. Some people should try it. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 5 August 2019 6:36:16 PM
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Drug deaths in Australia must surely be greater than firearm offenses. Any outrage on the availability on those ?
Posted by individual, Monday, 5 August 2019 7:17:08 PM
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Foxy,
"Amazing what you can learn with Google. Some people should try it" So you found out that the USA is not the worst, congratulations. Now look up if Russia is an industrialised nation, do they build nuclear powered ships, do they have a manufacturing industry? How about South Africa? They have a big arms industry and they build their own trains, whhich Australia apparently can't do. I took your 'advice' and found that, "So who's tops? Surprisingly, Norway is, with an outlier mass shooting death rate of 1.888 per million (high no doubt because of the rifle assault by political extremist Anders Brevik that claimed 77 lives in 2011). No. 2 is Serbia, at just 0.381, followed by France at 0.347, Macedonia at 0.337, and Albania at 0.206. Slovakia, Finland, Belgium, and Czech Republic all follow. Then comes the U.S., at No. 11, with a death rate of 0.089. That's not all. There were also 27% more casualties from 2009 to 2015 per mass shooting incident in the European Union than in the U.S. "There were 16 cases where at least 15 people were killed," the study said. "Out of those cases, four were in the United States, two in Germany, France, and the United Kingdom." "But the U.S. has a population four times greater than Germany's and five times the U.K.'s, so on a per-capita basis the U.S. ranks low in comparison — actually, those two countries would have had a frequency of attacks 1.96 (Germany) and 2.46 (UK) times higher." http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/sorry-despite-gun-control-advocates-claims-u-s-isnt-the-worst-country-for-mass-shootings/ Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 5 August 2019 8:34:19 PM
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Just to add a bit of racism check out the number of murders among African Americana & those of European extraction.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 5 August 2019 9:26:39 PM
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You're right once again. It doesn't matter how many restrictions or impositions we place on the legit. Shooter; it's always the crooks who manage to obtain weapons, through illicit means. And I agree, perhaps we would see more shootings in issues of domestic violence if we had as many F/A's available as they have in the US?
Some weapons have been fashioned in such a way; the Serial Number has been obliterated or removed. Just another futile attempt in trying to make it untraceable. Nearly all F/A's are still traceable, with or without Serial No's. The lands & grooves on a projectile (provided it's in reasonable shape) will often indicate the mfg. of the F/A. Together with the number of twists, either right or left hand, the firing pin, bolt face; extractor markings, all of which leave distinctive 'tool marks' that are unique to that weapon.
All that's needed is the projectile( that's relatively undamaged the better) or the case, both in fairly reasonable condition. Even the humble shotgun leaves certain individual tool marks.
In the case of Serial Numbers that have been removed, a skilled forensic metallurgist can often raise it, using several different scientific processes, which can assist in discovering the author of a crime, one involving that particular F/A.