The world has been a lot warmer than it is now, well before industrial times. The evidence is available but, once the alarmists started to lie, they could not stop. Global warming was juggled to become climate change. I think that they will have a struggle to come up with another description as their lies become even more evident. But, they are very inventive, so who knows what we will be 'experinceing' next!

Dear ttbn,

These people you are saying are lying about anthropogenic global warming are the scientific community. It is the scientific community that has been recording global temperatures over the past 60 years and their measurements are showing that the panet is getting warmer. This very same scientific community has calculated that the temperature rises in the industrial period are due to the burning of fossil fuels.

That's right. The members of the scientific community involved in the scam are liars.

Well there we have it everyone! ttbn has just confirmed that the scientific community is plotting against humanity.

Oh dear Mr O, you'll really don't get it do you?

In the past there were temperature rises similar or exceeding those of the present caused by entirely natural phenomena.
Now that doesn't prove that the current warming is also natural, but it does disprove the theory that the current warming can ONLY be man-made.
And because of the doubt as to the cause, it leaves one wondering why we'd want to uproot the economy when doubt exists. So not a red herring...just a herring that you'd prefer to ignore.

As to your assertion (for that's what it is - a claim without evidence) that "This very same scientific community has calculated that the temperature rises in the industrial period are due to the burning of fossil fuels." Well that's just not true. SOME members of what you falsely call the scientific community have indeed reached that conclusion. But equally large numbers of scientists have reached an entirely different conclusion and an even greater number have yet to reach a conclusion.

"The main fact is that the scientific community has been recording dramatic per annum increases in the mean temperature of Earth since the 1950s. "

That's simply, laughably untrue. The increases haven't been 'per annum'. In fact temperatures have decreased slightly in the last two years and many time before that. Additionally temperatures decreased between the 1950s and the mid 1970s which is why all the scare-mongering in the 1970s was about the impending ice age. Finally neither the increases or decreases have been dramatic but easily within normal ranges.

Dear mhaze,

It is the scientific community that has been measuring the mean global temperatures over the past 60 years and they are recording a mean temperature rise that they can only put down to human activity viz the burning of fossil fuels.

We all know that you, Hasbeen, individual, Loudmouth and some others do not want to accept the findings and conclusions of the scientific community. To me that seems like a ridiculous position to take and I think it is a totally irrational position to take in light of the seriousness of the threat that global warming and its consequential climate change poses to life on Earth.