Looks like we can add runner to the list of those suffering from paranoid delusion.

Mr O,

"You, Hasbeen and others say that the scientific community is lying about its results and conclusions."

Well that's not true but also avoids the point.

I showed some members of the scientific community who say that the rise in temperatures is caused by things other than man ie the big yellow thing in the sky is the cause of the rise in temperatures.

Do you think they are lying?

I suspect Mr O will continue to take the 5th on that question.

Highly amusing that some naifs think that scientists are angels who never lie. When it comes to taxpayer grants they lie like pigs in straw with the best of them. Remember, they have been brainwashed by political commissars posing as lecturers in universities, where all is fair in Marxism and war against the West.

Baygon if those scientists were actually doing genuine research, I would be all for it. However as we know, most of them are not doing original research, but are looking for anything, no matter how ridiculous to try to prop up the failing theory. Every week there is a new pile of bulldust claiming some new catastrophe that CO2 causes.

We all know, or should do, that the IPCC is not a research organisation, but was set up to prove the theory that global warming is manmade. They have been dismissing all evidence to the contrary from the start, & destroying the careers of those whose data is hard to refute.

Then we get the useful idiots like Mr Opinion, who in dozens of posts have not produced a single piece of data to support their case.

Then we get the big yellow ball in the sky. Today he has a huge smile on his face, as he prepares his joke on the global warmers. His reduction of sunspots will really play havoc with the global warmers warming. How long will it take them to blame the coming cooling on the poor much maligned CO2, as they did during the ice age scare of the 70s.

Hasbeen, mhaze, ttbn, et al,

The scientific community has been measuring mean global temperatures over the past 60 years and it is saying that the temperature rise is due to human activity viz burning of fossil fuels. You say that the scientific community is lying about its results and conclusions.

"You say that the scientific community is lying about its results and conclusions".

The penny has dropped at last. Scientists are human, just like the rest of us.