Hi Paul,

One problem with Pascoe's claims is that there isn't any actual, physical evidence of any of it.

Another problem is that no missionary or anthropologist - or anybody else who lived with Aboriginal people, such as Buckley - have reported the slightest sign of what could, however loosely, be called agriculture.

In fact, quite the reverse: missionaries, who had to fund their own wages, almost invariably tried to persuade people to grow a bit of a vegetable garden or an orchard, to help out with their mingy budgets. The renowned Dr Philip Nitschke tried to get a vegetable garden going at Wattie Creek around 1970-1972, perhaps as a means of firming up any land claims, but when he left, the whole thing fizzled, with only a few women being interested for a few weeks after he left. And mission after mission reported, one way or another, that as soon as people realised at about the same time, that they could get welfare by actually doing nothing, they abandoned their gardens and orchards - often without even turning off the sprinklers. [cf. Hermannsburg, Ernabella].

Are there any farming legends, stories, songs, tales, etc. ? Not that I've heard. Any actual evidence of tools, by the thousands, in every Museum ? I don't think so. Evidence of hunting - spears, clubs, netting, hunting boomerangs, etc., in Museums ? Oodles. Evidence of gathering ? Yes, probably thousands of grind-stones, digging-sticks, etc.

Solid evidence, Paul, is what counts, not yarns or 'narratives'.

Cheers,

Joe

Loudmouth,

so very good as always, to hear from you.
I can feel vindicated once more at what I said continually, to certain people on this medium about this annoying topic and it's arrogant protagonists, trying to elevate themselves to a station well beyond their miserable abilities, knowledge and true status.
In reviewing this topic, it is now clear it was a waste of time and only served to ingratiate those who promoted it including the author of the book the topic was about.
The title also is a sham, as it is promoted as some big deal, which as it turns out, is not.
Even the officials entrusted with the job of identifying the value of this submission erred in their haste to be reckognised as the ones who discovered that these Bludge Bin things were some great new discovery akin to discovering the meaning of life, thereby raising their profile beyond their true worth and questionable academic levels and topical experience.
In short, it's a con, it's nothing, it's just about some very stale and boring people, desperate for some, any, kind of recognition.
That also includes those on OLO who have backed this farce of a topic.
Beginning with the author, who apparently craves for attention, so she creates a topic then baits people to answer, giving the impression her topics rate better than others because of the page count.
What she doesn't want anyone to know is that out of just 40 pages, she has 46 entries, and all the rest are challenges to her and all attempting to convince her she and her stance are wrong.
Finally it has been confirmed, and I can rest in the knowledge that my work here is done.
I can now move on.
This topic and it's author have been outed, as they have been weighed, measured and found wanting.

Hi Joe,

All I can say is read the book then criticise the book if you will. Its an easy book to read, fairly short. Its not like Bill Gammage's 'The Biggest Estate On Earth' a rather weighty volume, another book you said you refused to read for not wanting to read fiction presented as fact. As for Buckley, his contact with Aboriginal people was with a relative small number. Not wanting to grow veg in 1972, well yes, and the 180 years of European influence, social welfare etc may well have been a contributing factor. How were things around Wattie Creek for Aboriginal people in 970-972? On tools you will have to read the book, evidence is offered by Pascoe.

ALTRAV,

Can I rent head space from you to house my 6 ton elephant. Its got to be big enough, and empty enough, to easily accommodate a very large pachyderm, without no trouble! And there would still be plenty of room for you to garage your fleet of Bentley's as well.

Paul1405

I would not hear of depriving you of your elephant which I understand has been a burden to you for many years, and goes a long way to clearing up why you have trouble with certain functions and reasoning.
I hear Foxy has a lot of mental space as I understand that because she has to plagiarise and reference everything she says, she has plenty of space up there, give her a shout.
Oh, BTW, I don't just have Bentleys, I also have Rolls Royce's, yes plural and Range Rovers, a Cadillac, oh I won't go on it will only encourage you.
You have a nice day now y'hear?

ALTRAV, there's no second prize. can't have a good day, it night time, so you have a good night sleeping in that bus shelter waiting for the number 7 to take you to your bedsit in Whopping!