Guys, guys, don't you see her cunning?
She keeps baiting us with her superfluous comments so we will respond in a vain attempt at correcting her and her beliefs.
The reason this stupid topic has gone on for so long and the ONLY reason I am still here is because she keeps pushing her sh!tty opinions on the topic and I for one am by nature, obligated to stop her from spreading lies and mis-information.
I did realise a long time ago, she is one of THOSE females that, for some reason, invests a lot of time, effort and emotion in unfounded causes, such as this one.
She knows full well what she is doing, and it only makes her a devious and manipulating person of questionable character.
Her actions speak for themselves.
She has never grown up, my continual assessment of her being like a petulant, spoilt, attention seeking little brat, are very apropos.
SO, removing the hundreds of postings challenging and attempting to correct her, you will find that the TRUE number of responses about the TOPIC are insignificant, compared to the ones objecting to her attitude and opinions on the topic.

Foxy,

I don't know whether i should admire or be appalled at your worship of authority.

Anyway, a good friend has sent me this:

>>Albrecht described the Aboriginal economy and the importance of sacred ritual as a means of production, but it should be noted that the sacredness of ritual imposes another layer of complexity to the Aboriginal economic activity when it comes in contact with European economic activity. The inflexibility of traditional law would make even the running of a small kitchen garden on Aboriginal lands a potentially serious sacrilegious breach of traditional law as it appears to pre-empt the role of the Dreamtime ancestors. Sacrilege was considered a capital offence. In the translator’s postscript to Worms, 1986:

>>In accordance with the dreamtime ‘law’ man is presumably obliged to contribute to this succession of natural events by carrying out ritual ceremonies (the so-called increase ‘ceremonies’) but it would be sacrilegious if he acted on his own initiative to alter and improve the existing situation by ‘sowing’ and ‘planting’. In 1954 a Njangomda informant expressed this view in the following way:

>>‘woro wirina-go djunga-nga mono ngalba djibi,

>>Something put-for earth-in Not good Finish

>>goi, mai-ba djarulin-ganga bugari-gara-dja.’

>>Animal plant and becomes to above to dream belonging-of

>>A free translation of this is:

>>‘Planting (or sowing) in the earth is not good;

>>animals and plants shall arise (become to above) from the Dreamtime (to the dream belonging)’

>>Worms, Father Ernest A., and Petri, Professor Helmut, 1998, p214. Australian Aboriginal Religions, Spectrum. A reprint of Worms, Father Ernest A., 1986. Australian Aboriginal Religions, Spectrum. (translated from the original Australische Eingeborenen Religionen, 1968. in German.). (Afterward to the English Translation)<<

Silly, from a Western point of view, but there you go.

Joe

Loudmouth and others, once more you prove your prowess on this topic, and once more you will be challenged no doubt.
As I have just written, I believe we are being 'bated' into replying to this nonsense of a topic by the one who introduced it so as to show that she is a worthy author/leader, of topics.
I think too much has already been said in many attempts to correct her and her running mates.
You have done a sterling job of attempting to bring her into line, but sadly to no avail.
You can rest in the knowledge that WE, those on your side, the ones that count, are most appreciative of your comments and input.
I just add the suggestion, that I think it's time for us to move on to the next, hopefully worthy, topic, and leave this one to those who won't be told, and between them they can keep adding comments for their narcissistic hunger for attention.

Hi Joe,

Did I say you had "fabricated" anything, no I did not, I believe you have diligently transcribed word for word what others wrote. The point I make is some of those writings are not truthful, they are fabrications by officialdom to hide the facts, and paint the treatment of Aboriginal by Europeans in a positive light. A question, of all the contributors to your website, the letter writers etc, how many are White, and how many are Black?

Dear Joe,

Thank You for your information.

One thing I am learning from this experience is that
we all perceive things differently. We've lived
different lives. We have different views. And that is
something we need to understand before getting angry at
someone for not believing what we believe.

We don't have to disrespect and insult others simply to
hold our own ground. If we do that it shows how shaky
our own position is. We've known each other on this
forum for a long time. It would be a shame is this
discussion would have a negative affect on us.
I would regret that very much.

Take care.

Dear Paul,

You've summed things up very well.

That was the point I was trying to make to Joe.

Officialdom will always protect itself.

It was my birthday on Sunday - and I was given the
DVD - "The Happy Prince," which I watched. It was
based on the life of Oscar Wilde. Who received
a pardon from the British government long after
his death only relatively recently. A pardon, not
an apology for his treatment