cont'd ...

ALTRAV,

I don't "crow"about anything.

I simply present information.

You're the one who crows about himself all the time
and does not present anything of substance.

Hi Issy, when you get the opportunity to read the book 'Dark Emu' you can then draw your own conclusions. Naysayers like Joe and ALTRAV who don't have a clue as to the full content of the book make uninformed judgements. Pacoe's book is very much like the 'Firstsources.Info' website, neither publish a disclaimer that the book or the website may contain fraudulent lies. Just as explorers and early settlers may have misrepresented the truth as related in 'Dark Emu', the publisher of 'Firstsources,Info' does likewise with these official government accounts of the interaction between Europeans and first Australians. Some of the accounts are simply untruthful whitewashes and should be taken with a grain of salt.

"It's a normal mistake to think that Cairns News
and Cairns Post are one and the same newspaper."

Only if your reverence for the facts is subordinate to the need to defend the narrative. Facts aren't what you want them to be? Easy, change the facts. Little wonder you are so enamoured of Pascoe.

Paul,

Nine thousand letters, or rather, carbon copies of letters, then transcribed. Do you really think I would be stupid enough to try to fabricate any letter ? It takes enough time just to decipher blurry or smudged or faded hand-writing, and in any case, the letters went to someone and it might still be available. So why should I bother ? Of course, if you want to check all of them out, go for it.

If you want a disclaimer, you've got it. Now BTT, please. Why are you and Foxy so defensive of what is obviously utter rubbish ?

Joe

Foxy,

Be a dear, and shew me if that website is lying, it could be weeks before I get the book, or am I to assume that the site is right and that the thirty learned judges did not critically read the book?

That they may have made a hasty judgement; remember that a version is being used in schools by impressionable young minds.

Here's a bit from the link that I gave re Gammage,

"Bill Gammage and the white fella myth of Aboriginal burning
March 5, 2015

Bill Gammage has become a cult figure for many people who believe we need to burn the bush ‘as Aborigines did’. He has even convinced quite a few environmentally concerned people through his book The Biggest Estate on Earth that regular burning is needed. However, what we rarely hear above the unquestioning accolades are the many scientists, academics and ecologists who have looked at his claims and found them to be either well-crafted falsehoods or just plain erroneous. Gammage presents wild guesses as fact, bases claims on selective historical information, exaggerates and is often incorrect in his geography. He has also admitted that he did not interview local indigenous people in areas he wrote about."

Fact or fiction?

Well, I was hoping that this discussion was
well and truly over by now.
Obviously its still going and I'm again being drawn
into responding. Here goes:

mhaze,

My record for the reverence for facts has been clearly
displayed over the many years on this forum as have your
own bloopers (as pointed out by Steele, Mr Opinion, and
many others). Your zest for, and continued attempts to
put people down that you see as a threat, makes your behaviour
that of a bully and a coward.

Joe,

Paul, myself, historians, and others, see Bruce Pascoe's
book as something of value. Pascoe has been acknowledged
by many experts. Why would you bother to rubbish like
you do and try to beat them down if they were not a threat.

And, as I've told you previously, the fact that you used
predominantly the records of the Proetector's - it's not
wonder you've come up with the results that you have.
What else could you have expected. It's time you broadened
your sources. How about actually reading Pascoe's book
before passing judgement?

Is Mise,

I'm trying to leave this discussion.
It's gone on for longer than I ever intended.
So no - I have no further wish in prolonging it any further.
I'm sure that you're more than capable of making your own
judgements about the book - once you get it from the library.

Dear Paul,

Thank You for your patience, integrity, and well reasoned
arguments.

For me, this has been quite a ride and an educational one.
Next time I bring up a subject on this forum I'll have to
give it greater thought. It's no fun being disrespected
and insulted.