Hi Foxy, I fully understand why it would be worth watching. Unfortunately the closed mind of Il Duce does not allow him to view "inappropriate material". Now if it was an episode of 'Beavis and Butt-Head' you suggest he watch. he would be all for it.

Hi Joe "how did Aboriginal people break the law," Here is a link to Aboriginals in chains at Wyndham Prison in 1902. "It’s also possible that they have been rounded up to be moved to a reserve areas which were being created at the time and that these individuals did not want to move". Now there's a crime in itself "they didn't want to go" how ungrateful of them! Look like the criminal class, Lock them up I say, put them in chains, teach them a lesson to respect their betters.

http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/australian-aborigines-chains-1902/

It is amazing what one can fabricate through ones minds eye, particularity when one tends to prejudge a people because of race. Mhaze you make a number of claims about Aboriginal people, would you care to put up the evidence about, slaves, Chinese traders, women, boys, Tasmanian's, whalers and sealers. Its all in your post, but nothing to substantiate your claims.

"because those of a certain bent can create whatever sort of history they desire" Is that you mhaze?

Paul, it's amazing how low you lot can go.
The one thing you and your cronies lack is a deductive and open mind.
You accept only information and material which bolsters and backs your views, beliefs and agenda.
You mock, knock, and ridicule anyone who differs or challenges your take on everything, as if you are the omnipotent, the exalted one.
Well Paul, if you had the slightest modicum of reason and common sense you would see that I ask questions, consider the answers then begin to form a rational and pragmatic direction, not conclusion, that comes much later when the information begins to stack up in one definite direction.
These conclusions are not 'made', or 'decided' by me, they become known by virtue of the information garnered along the way.
I don't quote references like you lot, because there are many to arrive at a conclusion both positive and negative.
In all too many cases the subconscious forms the final opinion and you find yourself with the answer by natural attrition and deliberation of the facts from the truth.
So don't try to describe me or my motives, I don't have any

" but nothing to substantiate your claims. "

Whereas all of Paul's assertions are meticulously researched and referenced. (That's sarcasm folks!).

Now I'm not going to spend too much time going back over all my research books and resources because in the end Paul doesn't care whether my claims are supported or not. He just wants to assert that they can't be. Last time he asked me to justify my points, I spent a deal of effort doing so and his response.....crickets.

So...

1. Lyndal Ryan (a bleeding-heart for aboriginals) wrote in Aboriginal Tasmanians (page 79 in my edition)..." Aboriginal society faced its first major upheaval with Europeans over the 'gift' of women ....in return for Europeans provisions. [Some tribes] found themselves with only a small number of women, having lost many to neighbouring bands who appropriated them for exchange with the Europeans. The loss of women led to an immediate decline in the birth rate." Elsewhere she talks of how the women held by sealers on the various islands avoided the European diseases and that consequently almost all surviving Tasmanians descended from these sealer male-aboriginal female unions.

2. Blainey (Triumph of the Nomads) has an extensive discussion about Chinese traders, who mainly came south for sandalwood, also returned with aboriginal women. These no record of that in Australia because, as you might know, they didn't write. But there are such records in Chinese archives. Macau, for various reasons seems to have had a sizeable number of such women.

I'd also recommend you read Windschuttle's 'Fabrication' on this same issue, but I don't see much chance of that.

Dear Paul,

If the first words out of someone's mouth are to
cry insults,
chances are very, very, high that they are in fact
part of the problem.

I admire your patience.

Paul,

There is quite a bit of documentation about the conflicts in the Kimberley, around the 1880s to 1920s: you can find the transcript of 1904 Royal Commission (the Roth Commission - yes, Dr Roth of Qld) - on my web-site, on the Western Australia page.

I don't know of the connection between rounding men up and sending them to Missions which didn't exist at the time. My understanding - limited as it undoubtedly is, me being an adopted South Australian - is that people speared cattle and were taken in chains - 7 oz to the ft - to Broome and Wyndham for trial. They did their time in the jails and were taken back home.

I would be very interested if you have information that they were taken to Missions - that, in fact, the rounding-up of men on the pretext that they had speared cattle was just a ruse to get them to the Missions ? Devilishly cunning of the missionaries. This article may or may not strengthen your case:

http://press-files.anu.edu.au/downloads/press/p72631/pdf/article0215.pdf

My very limited understanding is that the Missions and the government, like such relationships elsewhere, were hostile more than otherwise, given that pastoralists saw Missions as unnecessary, and trouble-makers, and the Missions saw the pastoral industry as brutal exploiters.

Joe